Which should be the bigger priority? The economy or gun control?

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Which is more important, the economy or gun control?

Poll closed Feb 12, 2013.
  1. The economy

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  2. Gun control

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  1. AceFrehley

    AceFrehley New Member

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    I know that lately we have seen liberals becoming hysterical about gun control. It is certainly fun to belittle their feeble, hysterical arguments. And no doubt, liberals LOVE the idea of distracting attention away from Obamunism and its disastrous effects on our economy. The latest job creation and unemployment numbers and worse should be expected from Obama's war on America.

    But seriously people, isn't it time we get back to the biggest problem we face, the problem Obama swore up and down he'd fix? When is he going to line by line through the budget to eliminate wasteful spending? When are we going to see that 5.X% unemployment rate he promised the stimulus would deliver?

    Enough is enough.There will be plenty of dead people for Obama to use to demagogue the gun control issue. If our economy continues collapsing, it'll be a moot point.

    Or perhaps that's precisely the idea.
     
  2. Forseti

    Forseti New Member

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    The economy. Fix the economy and you fix poverty. Poverty is the leading cause for violent crimes in America, so when it gets down to it fixing the economy fixes just about everything else.
     
  3. Texsdrifter

    Texsdrifter Well-Known Member

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    The economy no contest. The gun debate is just something shiny to distract us from the economy and the middle-east in turmoil.

    Usually when Americas gets this divided we will pick a 90# weakling to go to war with and bring us together. Wonder who this time?
     
  4. AceFrehley

    AceFrehley New Member

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    Excellent. I was hoping someone would bring up the connection between crime and the economy. Thanks.
     
  5. Forseti

    Forseti New Member

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    Unfortunately, few will acknowledge the connection, even though it is plain for even the most uneducated layman to see. But you see, liberals need a distraction from the fact that they are destroying the economy, and so are scapegoating guns and the mentally ill for the violence pervading our culture these days. They better hope voters don't start connecting the dots
     
  6. AceFrehley

    AceFrehley New Member

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    Spot on again. Of course, liberals know the economy is way more important. But they know "it's Bush's fault!" is wearing thin. A nice diversion, like gun control, serves two purposes. First and foremost, they are in desperate need of a diversion.

    And if one is going to have a diversion, why not make it a grab for the 2nd amendment???
     
  7. Lee S

    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    If you are a liberal, you do not want to say anything bout the economy, so gun control is a decent distraction. If you were a liberal would you rather be exploiting dead schoolchildren or admit your President has less economic acumen as a 7-11 clerk or a six year old running a lemonade stand?
     
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    I think the majority of Americans would probably feel that BOTH represent serious problems.
    Extreme LibDems want to take away the pistol we have in our home for protection. Extreme ConservaRepubs want to pretend we don't have a gun violence problem or in some cases, even believe that the answer to our gun violence problem is.... more guns.
    We Independents think that having a gun in the home to protect your family is perfectly reasonable but that demanding that every living person in America be allowed to carry an AR-15 to church, the mall, the theater, schools, universities etc... is ludicrous.
    When we Independents state our opinons, LibDems will argue with us, showing how handguns are actually the biggest problem, more people are killed in America per capita than lots of other countries etc...
    When we Independents state our opinions, ConservaRepubs will label us Fascist-Socialist-Constitution-Hating-Secret-Agent-Liberals.
    We do notice the difference in ability to have an intelligent and civil conversation between the two groups. This was reflected in an election recently.
     
  9. leftysergeant

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    I have not seen that even a sizeable minority of liberals are enthusiastic about gun control. True, there are more liberals who, for religious reasons, dislike any form of violence, even in self-defense. I am, myself, rather solidly liberal, and refuse to be a victim of someone else's ahimsa. I regularly go about strapped, sometimes for the entire day. I have been running errands off and on today and am strapped right now.

    I just want there to be laws that keep lunatics and thugs from owning weapons, and that require those who own weapons, when called on to do so, to use them in the defense of society.

    The ecconomy is the very center of liberal thinking. Poverty is the mother of crime, especially poverty for which there seems no more remedy.

    There is, to the liberal mind, no better cure for crime than prosperity for all, even if it works against decadent opulence for one small class.
     
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    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What economy? Is something wrong with the economy?
     
  11. AceFrehley

    AceFrehley New Member

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    You are a not-so-common phenomena in liberalism: you can walk upright and think. Granted it is a minority of liberals drooling on their bibs demanding draconian gun control, but they're vocal and have totalitarian allies like Feinswine and Obama and the liberal media.

    In the end, this is going nowhere. It'll still be a win for Obama though. He will have distracted from his horrible economy and have another thing to blame Republicans for.
     
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    The fire arms of the people can only be taken after an economic collapse (another 1929) and chaos, revolution.and followed by new elections (the system first need to reach absolute power, can only be reached via politics, elections, revolution. Votes are power, this is what they need, by attacking the guns they cause political change, a political revolutionary act)
    Another 1929, thats exactly what can be the next big event (can happen this year because 2013 minus 1929 is not coincidently '84)
    The media (especially Infowars) keeps repeating the subject 'gun control', Because if the system can't win via politics they choose the revolutionary path (politics is a revolutionary system) (the attack on gun control is revolutionary, it's collectivism, masses of people own guns, they try to cause a revolt/political change in the gun owners)
    They will cause anger and revolution (misusing the emotion of people), psychological tyranny is the most powerful weapon of the system (more powerful than an iron/steel weapon, they know they can't win the military way) This is why this period (2000-2013) is full of psywar, mind control, ideology, political terminology, rethoric, ideological movies, deception, as never seen before.
     
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    Horse hockey. Most of the liberals I know own at least one hunting weapon, about half have a Washington CPL.

    There really is not that big a connection between liberalism and attitudes toward firearms, unless it is in the fact that liberals realise that it takes some degree of disicpline to live successfully as a civilization.
     
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    Ignore the ill economy behind the curtain..........
     

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