Brennan the perfect guy to head CIA… if its job is to create more terrorists’

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    CIA Director-designate John Brennan strongly defended the use of drones for fighting terror suspects as he was grilled by the Senate over one of Washington’s most-criticized policies.

    John Brennan, President Barack Obama’s nominee to be the new CIA chief, had a tough time answering some questions posed by the Senate Intelligence Committee on Thursday. Repeated interruptions by anti-war protesters did not make it any easier for him to explain the advantages of the controversial drone policy. (AWP's soon to be 'domestic terrorists' - J- )

    Brennan assured that any actions the CIA would take “will be legally grounded, will be thoroughly anchored in intelligence, will have the appropriate review process, approval process before any action is contemplated, including those actions that might involve the use of lethal force."

    One of those skeptical of Brennan’s words is Jayel Aheram, an Iraq War and Marine Corps veteran, activist and writer who, in an interview with RT, expressed his doubt over the possibility and the commitment of the CIA thoroughly to review the situation on the ground from somewhere far away from the United States.

    He also questioned the criteria which might be used for such a review, suggesting that “basically anyone over the age of 18 or 16 in a strike zone constitutes a militant. So I could be going to school somewhere in Yemen, going about my day, and if I get obliterated by one of these drone strikes, am I to be considered a militant

    Aheram believes drone strikes are “long distance murder” and lead to further escalation of violence.

    “If the CIA's job is to make the United States even less safe, if the CIA's job is to export violence and death and destruction in these foreign countries, if the CIA's job is to create even more terrorists through the use of these drone strikes, then John Brennan is the perfect guy to head the CIA.”

    Members of the Senate Intelligence Committee asked Brennan specifically about one of the drone strike targets, Anwar al-Awlaqi, an American in Yemen with ties to Al-Qaeda. His death in a drone strike in 2011 was hailed by President Barack Obama as a major blow to Al-Qaeda, but critics said it amounted to an assassination to deliberately kill a US citizen without a prior attempt to indict him.

    Brennan explained that capturing al-Awlaqi would have been impossible:roll:. He also described as a “misimpression on the part of some American people… that we take strikes to punish terrorists for past transgressions. Nothing could be further from the truth. We only take such actions as a last resort to save lives when there’s no other alternative to taking action that’s going to mitigate that threat.”

    Experts are supplying proof of the opposite.

    "Clearly in the Anwar Al-Awlaqi strike there's been no evidence suggested of an imminent threat of an ongoing planned attack. And then in that case a US citizen was struck with a drone missile for having some past involvement… So Brennan is just simply wrong. He is at odds with the record," says Feisal G. Mohamed, Middle East expert and professor at the University of Illinois.

    Then there’s the issue of collateral damage, widely discussed in connection with the drone program.


    Colin S. Cavell, author of Exporting 'Made in America' Democracy defines collateral damage simply as innocent people being killed. He believes drone strikes are not only a problem for supposed enemy combatants, but also a matter of concern for most Americans.

    “What has [Americans] concerned in this particular situation with the drone policy is the Obama administration saying we have the right to kill American citizens. This is a complete denial of our constitutional rights under the 14th Amendment – due process of law and equal protection of the laws,” said Cavell.

    Despite John Brennan facing grilling from senators during his confirmation hearing, Professor Mohamed does not believe that either Republicans or Democrats “really want to take a strong line against Brennan. Nobody wants to appear soft on security… I think whatever happens with the Brennan confirmation, nothing will change this policy until Congress actually dials back the authorization for use of military force it very hastily passed after September 11.”

    http://rt.com/usa/news/brennan-cia-job-drone-748/


    So. Here we have the puppet Nobel Peace Prize9O'Bama) winner, demonstrating that, much like peerages and knighthoods, these things are not for the great and the good, they are for the worse of people, the worse you are, the higher the prize. Of course these kinds of actions 'makes Americans less safe', that is what it is meant to do, do you honestly think that those who conceive of such things, do not know this? Of course they do. It's inevitable that if you keep remotely murdering people, then sooner or later there is blowback.

    That is good with them. They use that. Add some more tiers to the NDAA + PA. Fondle people at airports all the more. More intrusions into your private life. Naturally, they would fein shock and horror, the moment there were reprisals, but they know full well what they are doing here. Also, the more unsafe they make you, the more they can nick more of your freedoms AND there are massive contracts in it for them, to install technology to 'make you more safe again'. Which you will pay for with more debt. And less investment in anything worthy, like people.

    Basicailly, they want you in a perpetual state of fear and trauma, through perptual war, killings, and then blowback, leading to them 'making you more secure'.
     
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    :mrgreen: Yep, what the world needs now is another ******** in Washington murdering its citizens remotely with aerial robots. That's a real ' hearts and minds ' winner. :mrgreen:
    The challenge, of course, is to defeat the US of AIPAC's multi-billion dollar weaponry with cheap and commonly available low-tech . Yes folks, these are anti-American thoughts.
     
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    Every war the US starts, every bomb they drop, every bullet they give to zionist murderers and jihadists, every drone strike, every sanction, has consequences that sooner or later come back to haunt the American people.

    Suicide bombers dont just wake up one morning and say they hate Americans.
    It's a process.
    Comes from wars and invasions and theft and injustice and support of tyrants and dictatorships and assassinations and terrorism and support for Israeli terrorism.
     
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    Three cheers for Brennan !!:clapping:

    Oh, yeah : and a pox upon those who trample upon our country while shedding crocodile tears for "da poor widdle (badly misunderstood) terrorists". ...one of whom sounds a LOT like Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute.:thumbsdown:

    (Can you figure out which "jackanapes" that might be ? ):icon_jawdrop:
     
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    ' Cheers ' ? You sure ?

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    Ten cheers for Brennan :clapping:.
    Catch those bastards !!
     
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    CIA one of the worlds top 10 TERRORIST organisations
     
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    Top ten? Who would the other nine be? How about Al CIA DA? Oh wait. One is a brand of the other. How about the Missad? Oh wait. The Bad Few have subverted the CIA as well, thus the CIA are now just a spy and murder agency, for the Bad Few.

    'John Brennan'? Ha ha ha. Yeah right. Like that will be his real name. Like John Sullivan (aka Netenyahu).

    :wink:
     
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    And the other nine are muslim orginasations !!!
     
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    Dear Mr. Brennan,
    We wish you good luck in your new and Challenging Job.
    Please use your Super computer to locate certain IP addreess ( not from this forum, here they all love u ) and catch those arab bastards
     
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    The mere fact that anti-American/Western radicals and the supporters of Islamic terror on this forum (the usual suspects) are bleating and whining is a reliable indication that he is probably the best man for the job. :D
     
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    But..but...look...at least the person in the background has a right to free expression, without reprecussions.

    I mean, no way is all that a facade..

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    Abileah interrupted Netanyahu with a banner that said “Occupying Land Is Indefensible” and shouting, “No more occupation, stop Israel war crimes, equal rights for Palestinians, occupation is indefensible.” She rose up to speak out just after the Prime Minister talked about the youth around the world rising up for more democracy. :roll:

    As this 28-year-old Jewish American woman spoke out for the human rights of Palestinians, other members of the audience—wearing badges from the conference of the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee—brutally attacked her. The police then dragged her out of the Gallery and took her to the George Washington University Hospital, where she was being treating for neck and shoulder injuries.

    “I am in great pain, but this is nothing compared to the pain and suffering that Palestinians go through on a regular basis,” said Abileah from her hospital bed. “I have been to Gaza and the West Bank, I have seen Palestinians homes bombed and bulldozed, I have talked to mothers whose children have been killed during the invasion of Gaza, I have seen the Jewish-only roads leading to ever-expanding settlements in the West Bank. This kind of colonial occupation cannot continue. As a Jew and a U.S. citizen, I feel obligated to rise up and speak out against stop these crimes being committed in my name and with my tax dollars.”

    http://www.codepink4peace.org/article.php?id=5837

    Here she is speaking.

    I guess now she is a 'bad Jew', and has made the death list of bad Jews to be exterminated in the near future.

    Just like the Zionist so called Jews did the last time.

    [video=youtube;s4zcIWP2vS4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=s4zcIWP2vS4[/video]
     
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    I have no quarrel with Muslims per se -anymore than I criticize any other religious group.:smile:

    I am in favor of further , careful use of drones against terrorists.:gun:

    I would suggest-if the presence of terrorists in your midst threatens the safety of your family, you close your doors to them,deny them your hearths, and expel them from the comforts of your beds.:angel:

    In other words, I'm willing to extend the same "safe-conduct" to YOUR loved ones as was offered to MINE.:steamed:
     
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    No such thing.

    Made up terms, to mask reality.

    Like all the rest of such terms.

    Just lies to mask the truth.
     
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    I could easily play this BS of inventing terms to cover evil, as well, you know. Woud not make them less evil, but to someone with no attention span or ability to look past the term, they would listen to them if churned out often enough, by liars...then cheer them on.

    Let's try some.

    How about... The Biological Commodities Intitiative (BCI).:flagus:

    There we go. The BCI. Say that over and over, in the media, and attach words like 'freedom', 'democracy', etc, to it. Anyone that speaks out against BCI, or who dares conspire to do harm to it, is naturally a foaming at the mouth 'terrorist'.

    Of course, BCI really means - human trafficking, but the mass will lose that in the detail.

    Don't ask me for a link on the effing BCI. I created it as an example.
     
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    That is a 100% idiotic way of thinking.

    "The president's strategy is absolutely clear about the threat we face. Our enemy is not terrorism because terrorism is but a tactic." http://www.middle-east-online.com/English/?id=39222

    "jihad is holy struggle, a legitimate tenet of Islam meaning to purify oneself or one's community." http://www.middle-east-online.com/English/?id=39222:

    July 1997, South Movement, "the path of Jihad and proper action": "Those who desire to face up to the Zionists conspiracies, intransigence, and aggressiveness must proceed towards the advance centers of capabilities in the greater Arab homeland and to the centers of the knowledge, honesty and sincerity with whole heartiness if the aim was to implement a serious plan to save others from their dilemma or to rely on those capable centers; well-known for their positions regarding the enemy, to gain precise concessions from it with justified maneuvers even if such centers including Baghdad not in agreement with those concerned, over the objectives and aims of the required maneuvers." (On the 29th anniversary of Iraq's national day (the 17th of July 1968 revolution). President Saddam Hussein made an important comprehensive and nation wide address) http://southmovement.alphalink.com.au/countries/Iraq/speech.htm
     
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    There are plenty of good Americans, that simply do not get a voice in the MSM (you know why). We get the impression that NO Americans are wise to all of this, and that they are ALL supportive of this rogue regime and infestation, but actually that is not true, and we must not fall into the trap (it is an easy one, I have done it myself), of thinking that those the MSM put in from of camera, or who are given high office, or who you may see in said media, waving ISRAEL flags at an IPAC Klan meeting, are ALL of America. Like I said, it is easy to believe so, since they tend to be most vocal, most organised, and most of all, they have the MSM.

    Actually, these usurpers WANT you to think all Americans are like this, they want the World to hate on all Americans, 'tis true, and I shall not do it, even if I fall into the trap, from time to time. There are probably far more Americans that loathe these parasties, than there are parasites, but without a central co-ordinated effort, and without a MSM, they do not appear to exist.

    It is easy, if you own the media, to simply not give those Americans a platform, and it is simple to just not report about them, while over reporting on the Israel First infiltRAITORS. (notice how the word rat is in that word).

    There are people that pass themselves off as 'Americans', online,who are not American, but American traitors. That is if they are American, at all.

    It is easy to claim to be American, and use the American flag, while, all the time, what you really are is a Trojan horse, not American, not loyal to America, and acting against the good of most Americans. There is a place for people like that.

    I have had both Americans and, to a lesser extent, British, say to me that they are distrubed that in the past 10-15yrs, there are all these sinister and malevolent laws, that involve secret evidence, secret prisons, secret trials, rendition, supression of legal representation, etc, etc, etc.

    And they should be distrubed. These things are anti American, and they are a blight on my nation, as well.

    And do not start this bollox as to how we 'have always done that', because that is a flat out lie.

    And don't try to justfiy it either, as you cannot make an evil into a good.

    So. They are right to be repulsed, and they are right to tell me that this will not end here, that such things will grow, unless they are challenged, ansd stopped. That is what it comes down to. Either you call evil as evil, and work to get this all OUT of OUR countries, or you are part of the infection.
     
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    That Jewish girl, that one I put up for people to listen to. Listen to her. Everything she says, she more or less calls right. She risked her own safety, to expose IPAC for what they are, a bunch of anti democratic, low life, fifth columnist thugs. Anti American thugs. And spies. Any arse can bolt the word American or British onto something, and it does not make it so. So, well said to her, but here is something else that was in her sub text, and Jews not in Israel should understand her here too. Every single thing these so called Jews do, is done in the name of Jews. Like it or not, that is what they do. The girl made the point, and I agree with her, and will go further. If you are a Jew, and you are like her, NOW is the time to speak out, in more number, and use your legendary lobbying skills against IPAC and Israel, within your own country. I know she is not alone. I know that the so called Jews make it harder for the likes of her, by threat of ostracitsation. Makes no odds. Let her be your example, if you are a Jew, and not in Israel. I know there are academics among you. I know that you can organise. I know that, like her, you are capable of putting your neck on the line, if you want to. Do it. And fast. That is the best advice I can give to Jews, outwith Israel. It is down to you, most of all. These are your 'people'. Israel is calling itself the 'Jewish state'. The stain shall be on all of your hands, unless you Jews stop it, no matter their threats, perceived power, and so on. You must unite and stop it all. If you do not, such as these things go, when the blowback happens, and it WILL (it is a given), it will be like a hurricane that blows you all away, without being selective.
     
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    Just as I was saying. (See below). Now, as I have said, these things, the rendition, torture, no legal representation, etc, they may appear new to you, in the US, and they are a great concern to American that I know to actually be American, and Brits that I know are really Brits (like those you can see + hear, and check out), but what you do not see, for it is not of course TOLD to you, is how it came to be so. Or rather, where it came from..

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    CIA was lying about torture even to its own staff - CIA veteran Kiriakou

    President Obama adopted most of President Bush’s counter-terrorism policies, argues John Kiriakou - the former CIA official who blew the whistle on the agency's torture practices and is now set to go behind bars for it. (He is a man of courage, and I salute him)

    After 9/11 Kiriakou served as the chief of counter-terrorist operations in Pakistan. Now he is heading to prison, having been sentenced to two-and-a-half years.

    Despite that, he says he is proud to have played a role in outlawing torture. Voting for Obama, Kiriakou believed that it would bring positive change – but it never came, he told RT. “I never believed I would be going to prison under a President Obama. Never.”


    http://rt.com/usa/news/cia-torture-john-kiriakou-790/
     
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    “I cannot see a greater collapse when the [American] executive can kill its own citizens arbitrarily, at will, in secret, without any of the decision-making becoming public,”

    "I encourage anyone in the White House who has access to those rules and procedures, work them on over to us. We'll keep you secret and reveal [the drone killing rules] to the public,”

    http://rt.com/news/assange-drone-killing-leak-813/
     
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    What Israel does is what Israel does; it has nothing to do with Jews everywhere else except for a BIGOT, and claiming “The stain shall be on all of your hands, unless you Jews stop it,” along with the genocidal threat of “If you do not, such as these things go, when the blowback happens, and it WILL (it is a given), it will be like a hurricane that blows you all away, without being selective,” defines you.
     
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    So you are calling that Jewish girl a 'bigot'.

    Wow.

    Just wow
     
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    I think that, for this particular administration, Brennan is the best person to head the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). President Obama is obviously confident in him. It should be noted that the President does seem to have Brennan on a leash of sorts. Brennan was among those that wanted to arm the Syrian rebels and President Obama decided against him. Brennan will follow orders and that is something very important when it comes to the CIA.

    This thread has gotten kind of crazy. As far as history is concerned, I don't have too much sympathy for people who wanted to ally with the Third Reich. And I have no more empathy for Imams, who teach future generations to hate people, than I do for these idiot right-wing evangelicals in the U.S., who teach future generations of Americans to hate people who don't accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior. Denying the Holocaust is just ridiculous. And of course there is a Zionist geopolitical agenda... Islam works in a similar fashion- just as Christianity did for centuries. Do you really think that Jews aren't going to try and defend their best interests, and expand their geopolitical influence?

    Everyone does these things- EVERYONE. The biggest difference is that western nations and southeastern nations have mostly evolved to utilizing economy for this purpose instead of military. Radical-Islamic terrorists should have stuck with U.S. embassies on foreign soil, instead of attacking us directly. Crying about American brutality now is just ignorant- especially when you consider that we could be doing things a lot bloodier. If 9/11 had happened prior to 1960 the Arabic population of the Middle East would be far smaller.
     
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    Defending their best interests. Does that include spying, extra judical murders, hit squads, subverting non Jewish lands, and provoking wars, that they do not fight, but do cash in on?

    If it does, then by the same reasoning, non Jews should do much more, to protect the interest of non Jews, against that.
     
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    Now you're starting to get it. All geopolitical entities are pushing their agendas.
     

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