Do Cathlics still excommunicate people?

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  1. Anobsitar

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    You don't have any concrete idea how psychopathic all this english "f-u-c-k"-nonsense is because you are used to live in this world of "f-u-c-k-s". Indeed to (*)(*)(*)(*) is one of the most beautiful things in the world and nothing is wrong with this word. It expresses only the sickness of the extremly violent thoughts and actions of people in the english speaking world - specially US-Americans. And it's very ugly to misuse an animal for such perverted (*)(*)(*)(*)-jokes, which is in the suspicion it could be as intelligent as a human being and should perhaps also be protected from human laws.

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    I take it that Earthling is not your first language. I know you are trying your best to communicate but it's not coming through. The important thing is that we all keep talking.



    PS... I bet you would just love the donkey show in Tijuana. LOL
     
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    The USA is not the world and english is not the best lingua franca we ever had used.

    First: Why is Mexico not accepting american car insurances? Second: Why is the behavior of american soldiers in Tijuana not comparable with the behavior of american soldiers in Germany? Third: Donkeys are nice and intelligent animals while men seem to be ugly and idiotic animals. I'm able to understand every woman who prefers to have sex with a donkey instead to speak with one of this ugly creatures called "men". Forth: The donkey situation in Tijuana seems to confirm the old proverb: "Money makes the world go down!"

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    I so enjoy reading your posts.
     
  5. Durandal

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    Go easy on us - we live in a culture of sexual repression fueled by fundamentalist Christian nonsense.
     
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    *sigh*

    Canon, not cannon.
     
  7. Anobsitar

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    I am a christian fundamentalist and I don't know what you are speaking about if you are using words like "sexual repression". For me everything is very simple: if it is love it is okay.

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    It comes down to fundamentalists imposing their ideas of love and sexuality on others through the force of law.
     
  9. Anobsitar

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    So everyone in the world is a "fundamentalist" ( a completly senseless empty placeholder now) because in all societies in the world people are forced to keep rules - specially also in case of sexuality. Take France as an example: The state in France redefined yesterday "marriage" and destroyed in this way the expression "family". A family there is now not any longer "man+woman -> child". It is now "parent parent child". You can see immediatelly that they lost information in this new system although they thought they will win degrees of freedom. And you can see also how the idea "partnership" got lost because familiy could also be "parent child" or "parent parent parent child" and so on and so on. I can see immediatelly: this system is instable. So what - but because of this situation for example Christians are no able to work any longer for anyone who is doing adoptions in France. "Child" is in this system a product - independent from any biological parents. Another example: Yesterday I read here in Germany got a 19 years old girl a job offer from the state to work in a red light district. The girl was shocked and made it public - but in a few years maybe it will be completly normal here that everyone who needs for a short time money from the state has to be ready to work as a prostitute - or to die on hunger. I see in such rules a heavy regress and not a progress.

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    1 persons regress is another persons progress. Sorry. But it is all relative to one's viewpoint.
     
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    The tragedy is not the stupidity of this sentence alone - the tragedy is: you are not able to reflect the stupidity of this sentence - otherwise you would not say so. I don't know how all mankind is able to survive any longer if the standarized people like you are thinking the greatest nonsense with the greatest arrogance and have always a feeling as if they had found the stone of wisdom. And I have the feeling after someone found one of the most stupid sentences on earth then he feels always a kind of duty to defend it like crazy and nearly no one seems to be able any longer to correct the own mistakes with the help of god and the power of the own mind. King Salomo - king of wisdom - ¿what to do?

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    ty for the confirmation
     
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    I think most excommunication these days is voluntary. All it means is that a person is not allowed to take communion, and anybody that commits a mortal sin that has not been forgiven is technically excommunicated.

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    It is very clear in the Gospels that remarriage after divorce is considered adultery. Somebody in a constant state of adultery is not allowed to receive communion, as they are in a constant state of mortal sin.
     
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    My local Catholic church is having no problems having people in the pews. Packed Church at both Sunday Masses.
     
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    Excommunication is not the equivalent of Amish shunning. We hate the sin, not the sinner. The excommunicated are welcome to attend Mass, they are just not allowed to take Communion. Formal excommunications are very rare. Google list of people excommunicated for examples (good wikipedia entry). Most people excommunicated are excommunicated for remarrying after divorce.
     
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    Do you live near an area that has a strong Latin or Irish demographic?
     
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    Very easy to get not excommunicated, for the most part, confession of your sin and renouncing it are all you need to do.

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    Not for us to judge, that's God's job.
     
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    Not a requirement, but they are good for us in other ways. For example, confession is a good way to get things off your chest, and no longer feel guilty for them.

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    Best case is salvation, worst case is hell, just like every other person.
     
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    She was raped by the stepfather, not the uncle, and the stepfather was excommunicated by his actions (any mortal sin excommunicates), no need to formally announce it. If the mother confesses that it was wrong to do that, then she can be recommunicated.
     
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    Too bad you weren't taught true Christianity. That Buddhist family that you give example of have an opportunity for heaven, just like any Christian. (Catholic shortcut explanation is baptism of desire).
     
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    Nowadays, perhaps. Times used to be much more, shall we say, serious. Back when the Catholic church actually governed people..
     
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    Nope. Very mixed community (miltary town). We have a young dynamic priest who is a magnificent speaker and pastor, and who relates well to the people. Our church wasn't so full two years ago with our former priest.

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    I have no personal experience with that. The reformed Post Vat II church is the one that I belong to.
     
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    And so the old murderous, always-right True Church "reforms" itself and washes its hands of its old sins overnight. Does it matter that it murdered countless "heretics" and "heathens"? Nah. That it destroyed ancient literature in Central America in order to facilitate their mass conversion to Catholicism? Nah. The modern church just has a little kiddie diddling problem, but I'm sure we can overlook that too.
     

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