Women are not 'liberated'. They are being destroyed.

I can't help but feel that there is a lack of emphasis on the fact that raping girls is wrong (something that boys/men apparently still don't generally realize). Deciding to reduce this emphasis seems rather silly.

 

Why does that even need an emphasis?

In all my 40yrs, it has never crossed my mind, and no parent specifically took me aside and told me it was wrong.

 

The age of consent has nothing to do with sexualization of children.

 

I will gladly put any emphasis on it you desire, as first and foremost it is wrong to rape anyone. And raping a person who is intoxicated is no less horrific or wrong. I certainly understand your concern, and I hope this clears up my position on the matter.

 

I am disgusted with all levels of freeloaders. From the lowest food stamp recipient to the greediest CEO, banker, politician, etc.

 

Yes, freedom does have some negative and positive features for both sexes. It is the nature of being free to choose that sometimes people make bad choices is it not? In the past women were not free to choose and were controlled by men. Of course, this had advantages (particularly for men), but I think on balance freedom is better (especially for women).

 

No.

It's not.

By your reasoning, we should sell crack to anyone, of any age, anywhere, and when it all goes wrong, it is 'free choice'.

Such thinking dooms everyone to hell in a handcart.

 

Men still seem a little confused about consent. I remember a British MP recently got into trouble for saying it was alright to sleep with a sleeping girl if she was your gf, etc. There seem to be a lot of reports like:

'This was a report of an academic survey which asked both men and women if they believed forced sex with an acquaintance was rape. Six out of 10 men said no'
(http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/vie...od/2011/jan/21/israel-palestinian-territories)

One is reminded of stories of course cases where men are acquitted because the girl was dressed 'like a slut'. It seems like suggesting that a girl who is drunk shares some of the blame for being raped is alone these lines.

 

This isn't entirely true. The culture, itself, today is so highly sexualized that it is virtually impossible to avoid the barrage of stimulus coming from every angle. The (*)(*)(*)(*) is everywhere. You can't monitor your kids 24/7. And short of doing something extreme like moving out to live with the Amish, your kids are going to get exposed to this stuff and are going to be influenced by it and are going to be pressured to conform to it. While it's true that the parents have a responsibility to say no, putting it all on them is rather naive.

 

That would be a more free system yes. But I suppose we limit those freedoms in our societies and rightly so. Now women have almost equal rights to men. I think that they amounts of freedoms that men have are reasonable, give or take a little. Do you disagree ?

 

I completely agree. I just hope that when liberals put a woman on a NFL field and she is killed, that they don't try to shut the NFL down. Thats seriously my only hope.

 

Then there is something wrong with their minds.

They are a minority, most men know this.

 

Part of the definition I randomly found had:

'sexualisation also involves the imposition of the sexuality of adult persons on girls, who are emotionally, psychologically and physically unprepared for this at their particular stage of development;'

Seems liek having sex with 12 year olds fits that bill.

 

And why is it 'rightly so'..?

 

Very much this.



[video=youtube;lrgRCmLz4W0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrgRCmLz4W0&feature=player_detailpage[/video]

 

Actually, if she was underage, then I think Ace has a valid point. Since technically, you could probably make a pretty good case that the crime wouldn't have even happened if she hadn't been breaking the law to begin with. Because the fact that she was illegally drinking was the direct cause of her being unconscious in the first place.

 

And men in there 30s wonder why they are alone.

 

Yes, women had such self respect when they believed they had no public voice, no voice in politics, no voice in their homes, no voice in the work place,no voice in the world.

 

Compared to today when they are self-conscious, image-obsessed, oversexualized at an early age, emotionally jaded, and are told by society that they have to behave like men in order to have any value.

 

As opposed to back in the 1950's when a middle aged (35) women who didn't yet have a husband and children was though of as a failure and useless unless she could get married and have children. Emotionally battered by society telling women they weren't worth as much as males. This is still true in most countries in the would were women are second class citizens.

All this talk about oversexualized at an early age, yet you and the OP only want to pin it on females. Males as always get that free pass on promiscuity, sexual encounters at a young ages, getting drunk, binge drinking, thinking about sex all day everyday and trying to have sex all the time.

 

No one on here is advocating this as something they wish for though.

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What the hell is it you think I am 'trying to pin on females', in my OP?

 

it's the right that wants to base laws on the bible... the left believes in a separation of church and state

 

I agree with you in part, but the other part is the complete rejection in many circles of the very idea of agency. We marinate our kids in sex messages, but we also teach them through other parts of the culture that they are incapable of choosing. Even in obviously bad decisions or bad actions, we don't say "that person made a terrible choice", we ask about their psychiatric history and what made them do it. Which is about the worst thing you can do. When people think that they did something for psychiatric reasons. You cannot simply be a drunk anymore -- you're always alcoholic, and you didn't choose to be alcoholic, the alcohol somehow chose you. Or if you dress like a slut -- you didn't choose that, you don't have agency or control, you did it because you saw it on Disney Channel and the cover of 17, therefore the cover of 17 chose your outfit. In a culture like that, you cannot be moral because you have no agency and thus cannot choose anything. So when the rest of the world says "wear hotpants" that's what you do, because morality is impossible for a moral-less automaton who cannot make a choice contrary to the culture.

 

The idea that a woman cannot enjoy a healthy and active sex life is codswallop. The idea that men are more sexual than women is a societally self-imposed myth, and it's far past time it be put to rest.

 

Funny how sometimes liberals get upset when people post common sense. Don't get passed out drunk in public. Don't waltz through a bad neighborhood swinging your $2,000 Nikon around on its strap.Don't be rude to people who handle your food or your paycheck. Pretty basic stuff.

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Of course women can enjoy a healthy and active sex life. No one is disputing that.