Tea Party Hero Who Equated Gays With NAMBLA: ‘I Certainly Apologize If I Offended Any

I do have to ask this. How does one get to be director of pediatric neurosurgery at a place like Johns Hopkins and have to apologize for saying something so incredibly and profoundly stupid.

Yes, tea party and CPAC darling managed to equate being gay with being a pedophile and apparently got into a little trouble with his work.

I can't understand why. Surely a guy who touts his position and lectures the masses at CPAC on economics, which is a bit odd in itself, woudl not say something publicly that is absolutely idiotic, making folks question his intelligence.

I jest. I just find it hilarious that bad rhetoric is something that comes so naturally when it comes to the tea party/CPAC circles.

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.co...f-i-offended-anyone/politics/2013/03/29/63814

Dr. Ben Carson says he’s sorry “if” he offended anyone after coming under fire for equating gay people with “NAMBLA,” pedophiles, and “those who believe in bestiality.” Carson, who made the offensive remarks on Fox News to Sean Hannity, is a neurosurgeon and the director of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, Maryland. The 61-year old doctor is being asked to withdraw as the commencement speaker by Johns Hopkins students.

“No group, be they gays, be they NAMBLA [the North American Man/Boy Love Association], be they people who believe in bestiality, it doesn’t matter what they are, they don’t get to change the definition,” Dr. Carson told Hannity. “So it’s not something that’s against gays, it’s against anybody who wants to come along and change the fundamental definitions of pillars of society. It has signifcant ramifications.”

Johns Hopkins Hospital for 21 years has been named the best hospital in the world, and is currently listed as the second-best.

“I think people have completely taken the wrong meaning out of what I was saying,” Carson told the Baltimore Sun in a telephone interview Friday. “First of all, I certainly believe gay people should have all the rights that anybody else has. What I was basically saying is that as far as marriage is concerned that has traditionally been between a man and a woman and nobody should be able to change that.”

“Now perhaps the examples were not the best choice of words, and I certainly apologize if I offended anyone,” he added. “But the point that I was making was that no group of individuals, whoever they are, whatever their belief systems, gets to change traditional definitions. The reason I believe the way I do, I will readily confess, is because I am a Christian who believes in The Bible.”

The Bible, he explained, “…says we have an obligation to love our fellow man as ourselves, and I love everybody the same — all homosexuals. Everybody who knows me knows I would never say anything to intentionally hurt someone.”

Baltimore Sun’s David Zurawik added:

Given the “if I offended anyone” tone and language of the apology, it will be interesting to see how it’s received. I hope readers will weigh in here.

Meanwhile, Carson appeared this afternoon on MSNBC’s “Andrea Mitchell Reports.” Talking Points Memo notes:

Students at Johns Hopkins have since circulated a petition to replace Carson, who’s retiring this year, as the university’s commencement speaker. He told Mitchell that he’s willing to honor those students’ wishes.

“Absolutely. I would say this is their day and the last thing I would want to do is rain on their parade,” Carson said, adding that that he didn’t want to make such an announcement on television.

 

He just thinks at a higher level than the average journalist or homosexual activist. He knows that the Left isn't done with sexual civil rights at gay marriage. Not by a long shot.

 

Begin the character assassination of a conservative and right minded black man because he made Shmobama look like an absolute idiot.

 

The compartmentalization is impressive. Gay people should have all the rights anyone else has, EXCEPT the rights I don't think they should have. But other than that...

But he sounds very much like some people on this very forum, associating being gay with perversion, pederasty, bestiality, you know, "them". Maybe he's not deliberately trying to smear them, maybe he really believes that they "all look alike".

 

I guess Eddie Long made Obama look bad as well.

 

I am sorry, but his race has nothing to do with anything.

The man is a neurosurgeon, and he said something profoundly and absolutely stupid, which makes me wonder how someone who says things like this became a neurosurgeon.

Furthermore, his views seem to run counter to science, as I see no relation between homosexuality and pedophilia or bestiality.

 

I would not assume what he said was profoundly stupid. He is a neurosurgeon. He is smarter than I am... this is not up for debate. I assume I need to revisit my assumptions on the subject. I do not knee jerk into demonization. It seems a little... hilariously egotistical.

 

If anyone DID equate them, that person was stupid. Now, I pointed out that he associated them, by lumping them all into the same breath, in the same clause of the same sentence. Associating is what people do when they WANT to equate but can't.

 

He went against Obama they cant have that. They will find anything they can on him. Expect Thinkprogress to work OT on it.

 

We are lucky you are above that sort of thing, and would never think of going after anyone you disagreed with.

 

Steve Baldwin published the following in the Regent University Law Review regarding homosexuality and pedophilia:

“ Indeed, some NAMBLA chapters meet at mainstream gay centers such as Philadelphia’s Gay and Lesbian Community Center. NAMBLA’s meetings and conferences always feature mainstream gay leaders and speakers. For example, Don Kilhefner, of the Los Angeles Gay Community Service Center, gave a speech to Los Angeles NAMBLA members on the subject of "The Significance of Man/Boy Love in the Gay Community.
The most comprehensive gay networking website, the Queer Resource Directory ....links every gay group in the country including NAMBLA and other homosexual groups that focus on youth. NAMBLA marches in gay pride parades with the consent of the gay leadership. Many of the homosexual movement’s most prominent leaders endorse NAMBLA and its goals. Gay authors and leaders such as Allen Ginsberg, Gayle Rubin, Larry Kramer (founder of ACT-UP), Pat Califia, Jane Rule, Michael Kearns, and Michel Foucault have all written in favor of either NAMBLA or man-boy relationships. Harry Hay, whom many consider the founder of the American homosexual movement, invited NAMBLA members to march with him in the 1993 "March on Washington" gay rights parade. He also marched in the 1986 Los Angeles gay parade wearing a shirt emblazoned with the words "NAMBLA walks with me."

Leading mainstream homosexual newspapers and magazines such as the Advocate, Edge, Metroline, The Guide, and The San Francisco Sentinel have not only published pro-NAMBLA articles and columns but also many have editorialized in favor of NAMBLA and sex with children.[1]


Read more:
Source:
http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_pederasty

 

I disagree on several counts.

I do not know if he is more intelligent than you or not. Though we rarely agree, you are not unintelligent, or less than of average intelligence by any means. Perhaps he was simply motivated a bout education differently than you or I.

That being said, I am of the opinion the guy was basking in his new found fame a bit, and mouthed off on Hannity. Now if what he said was supported by facts or even reality, why would he apologize for it?

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I disagree on several counts.

I do not know if he is more intelligent than you or not. Though we rarely agree, you are not unintelligent, or less than of average intelligence by any means. Perhaps he was simply motivated a bout education differently than you or I.

That being said, I am of the opinion the guy was basking in his new found fame a bit, and mouthed off on Hannity. Now if what he said was supported by facts or even reality, why would he apologize for it?

 

I agree on both points.
Gays are not the same pedophiles and Carson did not claim they were.

Carson said the common denominator was a wish to change the institution of marriage into something it was never meant to be. I'm not sure it was wise or useful to lump NAMBLA types or beastophiles into this group but equation between gays and pedophiles means they are synonymous.
So I really see no purpose in making a distinction between gays, pedophiles and those into beastiality in Carson's comments if the thinks they are all the same.

Does he want to equate them all? When it comes to changing the institution of marriage, I suppose.

 

How exactly is this offensive to gays? He made an egalitarian statement toward anybody who wanted to change the definition of marriage. Regardless of who they are or what they desire. Sounds like some people (predictably) are being too sensitive here.

Personally, I don't care if sensitive people get offended. They look for reasons to be offended. Because it makes them feel validated.

 

Its funny you are being sarcastic but you are correct.

 

Comparing Bestiality and pedophilia with homosexuality huh? Real stupid. I am aware of the accomplishments and well deserved admiration of Dr. Carson for his accomplishments. I like him for the most part. He really disappoints me here though. I understand him being a Christian and thinking homosexuality is a sin. What bothers me is the fact that he said "First of all, I certainly believe gay people should have all the rights that anybody else has." then goes on to explain that there's at least one right he certainly doesn't believe they should have. Just say how you feel Dr. Carson. You don't feel that homosexuals should have the right to marriage in our country. I'd love to hear him explain this in detail.

 

NAMBLA is a HOMOSEXUAL organization. What's he apologizing for?

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NAMBLA is an organization for homosexual pedophiles.

Why can't the Left EVER just TELL THE TRUTH(s) about homosexuality?

 

If I had to guess, I would say most people do not like being associated with or be accused of being pedophiles.

 

This is confusing. I am aware of what NAMBLA is and never disputed it. What did I say that was untruthful about homosexuality? What truth about homosexuality are you referring to? ???

 

I'm talking about NAMBLA,and the pretense that it is NOT a homosexual group; IT most certainly IS.

The asinine pretense that they is NO CONNECTION is the FALSE PREMISE of this entire thread.

Every homosexual may not be a pedophile, but EVERY MEMBER OF NAMBLA is a HOMOSEXUAL.

 

So he apologized for????????

 

Not all pedophiles are homosexual, conversely not all homosexuals are pedophiles. However, there are homosexual pedophiles. That has certainly been proven in a court of law.
See:

Jesse Dirkhising raped and murdered by homosexuals

www.armyofgod.com/JesseDirkhising.html

... Raped and Murdered by two homosexuals ... said that decision probably contributed to the boy's rape and death. ... A man convicted of rape and murder in the ...
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Life & Liberty Ministries: Homosexual Rape and Murder of Children

www.lifeandlibertyministries.com/archives/000203.php

Homosexual Rape and Murder of ... but his social status kept him from being convicted for many ... since the rape and murder of a child is of such widespread ...

 

All true. Not sure why you said I couldn't tell the truth about homosexuality. I do have to point out that there are heterosexual pedophiles as well. What exactly is your point?

 

Comparing homosexuality with bestiality and people who condone the molestation of children I would guess.

 

I must have misunderstood your post. YOu seemed ot be claiming that tying homosexuality to NAMBLA was 'wrong".