Feds: Constitutionalists Are Actually "Terrorists"

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  1. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    And yet you claim others spread hate..... Irony.
     
  2. dujac

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    i think most constitutionalists are just ignorant of reality


    Home › Jefferson › Quotations › Spurious Quotations

    Dissent is the highest form of patriotism (Quotation)

    "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism" is often attributed to Thomas Jefferson, but to date we have found no evidence that he said or wrote this. Its true origins are uncertain, but the saying may have entered popular culture during the Vietnam era.

    The earliest usage of the phrase we have found is in a 1961 publication, The Use of Force in International Affairs: "If what your country is doing seems to you practically and morally wrong, is dissent the highest form of patriotism?"[1]

    The phrase was used repeatedly during the Vietnam era, and this may be when it came into general currency. On October 15, 1969, in a speech at Columbia University, Mayor John Lindsay of New York City stated, "We cannot rest content with the charge from Washington that this peaceful protest is unpatriotic...The fact is that this dissent is the highest form of patriotism."[2]


    Footnotes

    [1] The Use of Force in International Affairs (Philadelphia: Friends Peace Committee, 1961), 6.

    [2] As reported by Bernard Weinraub, "Bells Toll and Crosses Are Planted Around U.S. as Students Say 'Enough!' to War: Campuses Remember Slain G.I.'s," New York Times, October 16, 1969, 19.

    http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/dissent-highest-form-patriotism-quotation
     
  3. The13thFloor

    The13thFloor New Member

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    Of what reality? that thomas jefferson didn't say that? It's an honest mistake. Thomas jefferson did say

    "The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. "

    I think people like you are ignorant to think we should sacrifice our only rights/protection from government, over the progressive/Liberal IDEA that the Constitution is obsolete. When in reality, it promises us freedom. I'm a Constitutionalists because I hold our freedoms in high esteem; The constitution is the ONLY reason this God forsaken country was EVER considered "Free," we can all kiss that goodbye due to sheeple like you..
     
  4. dujac

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    the ignorance is all yours, i don't think we should sacrifice any rights
     
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    Get a life! So I misquoted someone!? It's not a big deal. Yet, you're PMing me and calling me an idiot and all this s***! You don't even know me. You're probably just some Obama fanboy, who doesn't like the Constitution cause it uses the word "slave."
     
  6. dujac

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    you can't seem to get anything right
     
  7. tkolter

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    I focused my response on Paper Terrorism and non-violent activities done not shooting people in the government service. Did I defend those people - no.

    Seriously if someone Paper Terrorizes people and its not illegal then its not wrong the person is exploiting the court system. If the person ,lets say, opts out of carrying any ID save their birth certificate (as a citizen born in the state) is that a terrorist of an Undocumented Citizen resisting participation in the system? What about driving without a license since you don't believe the government has the right to issue a license is that a terrorist?

    Some groups use Constitutional loopholes and rights to fight the system such as the Amish to avoid much of the government obligations and using a extended view not obeying the will of the government equals terrorist is a fairly dangerous precedent taking some of the government view to its natural conclusion.
     
  8. Pardy

    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I hope that Homeland Security finally does its job and squashes these anti-Government terrorist groups. They are too dangerous to public safety. It's the government's job to keep us safe, so why don't they do something to protect us from domestic terrorist and anti-government types like David Koresh and Timothy McVeigh? Do we have to wait until another building is bombed or another wacko in a compound uses kids as human shields?
     
  9. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    they are doing something

    watch the video at the link below


    Ga. murders uncover militia within U.S. Army

    LUDOWICI, Ga. -- Prosecutors in Long County, Ga. say a former soldier at Fort Stewart and his girlfriend were killed because they were about to expose a militia group at the U.S. Army base.

    Prosecutors said an investigation into the murders uncovered the anarchist group, which was made up mostly of active-duty soldiers at Fort Stewart.

    Four soldiers were charged with the murders of Michael Roark and his 17-year-old girlfriend, Tiffany York. Roark was discharged from the Army a few days before he was murdered.

    Pvt. Isaac Aguigui, Sgt. Anthony Peden, Pvt. Christopher Salmon and Pvt. Michael Burnett were arrested on December 12, 2011. Prosecutors said the four soldiers coerced Roark and York into a wooded area and executed them as they got out of a car.

    Prosecutor Isabel Pauley said Pvt. Aguigui organized an anarchist group or militia called FEAR, short for Forever Enduring, Always Ready. "All members of the group were active duty military or former military," Pauley said. "Defendant Aguigui actively recruited new members at Fort Stewart and targeted soldiers who were in trouble or disillusioned."

    Pvt. Burnett accepted a negotiated plea on Monday in return for his testimony against the three other soldiers. He will serve 10 years of a 50-year sentence, the remaining 40 years on probation.

    http://www.11alive.com/News/Crime/254067/445/Ga-murder-uncovers-militia-within-US-Army
     

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