Wealth Inequality in America

Those with money always use it to destroy the body politic. It is not as though poverty is the same in all first and second world countries, it is worse in the United States because of persuasion by corporations.

 

I believe it is a simple lack of sufficient morals to bear true witness to our own laws regarding employment at will. I guess we can still confide in the sincerity of Jesus the Christ regarding the wealthiest even in modern times.

 

I never said the government had to decide who gets paid what but they could give incentives to corporations who take care of their employees.

I have a question, what are the odds do you think that I will see a rightwinger on this forum talking about Tom Corbett the Republican govenor cutting 2.1 billion from public education while handing out 3.1 billion in corporate tax breaks annually?

There is a reason people do not trust the integrity of those who say leave the big guy alone while PREACHING self reliance for the little guy especially when they then say the big guy has no obligations to do anything useful with thier profits.

 

The video does not discuss redistribution it simply states that there is a wealth inequality and shows it by totaling the amount of wealth is this country and showing who has what.

Short term profits at the expense of the consumer is devastating to our economy and our publics general welfare. Keeping people poor and adding more to the pool is not going to improve our crime rates for example.

 

Morally I would say nothing.

Unless of course the people with all the wealth feel no compassion towards their fellow human beings, like Scrooge welcoming the demise of the surplus population who won't fit in the debtors prisons or the poorhouses (that part of the christmas carol always makes me laugh).

Economically maybe there are big problems. How much do the 1% really need? Will it be enough to run the economy? Who does the small local business sell goods and services to? What happens when 99% of their customers are essentially broke or just able to scrape by?

And thats the way things are going. We haven't hit the bottom yet, but people paying attention can see it coming.

 

I'm amazed that the debate about wealth inequality in the USA is about whether to "penalize" the very rich for their success, rather than whether it is a good thing that the very rich over the last 3 decades have reduced the percentage of their income they pay in taxes (much better tax loopholes) and have a higher percentage of the nation's wealth (that's not in nominal terms: in real percentage terms). Is our country better off 30-odd years later as a result of giving the very rich more and more breaks and a greater and greater share of the new wealth generated in the American economy each year?

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I'm amazed that the debate about wealth inequality in the USA is about whether to "penalize" the very rich for their success, rather than whether it is a good thing that the very rich over the last 3 decades have reduced the percentage of their income they pay in taxes (much better tax loopholes) and have a higher percentage of the nation's wealth (that's not in nominal terms: in real percentage terms). Is our country better off 30-odd years later as a result of giving the very rich more and more breaks and a greater and greater share of the new wealth generated in the American economy each year?

 

Maybe the wealth inequality would go away if government decide to butt out of the economy entirely and quit propping up monopolies and oligopolies.

Wealth distribution is none of government's business.

Make you a deal: Let's eliminate all corporate and individual welfare and all the regulations that squelch competition. Government gets radically smaller and the economy perks up.

 

Obama has forced your redistribution of wealth on the American people for almost 5 years now and it is a complete and utter flop. I do not expect you to admit that bit of truth. This utopian "FAIR -share dream has failed everywhere it has been forced on the people, the only people who become the 1% are the lying politicians who sell this Socialism dream to people in need.
Name any country that has ever prospered under the socialist ideology. Obama a huge 1%'R takes million dollar vacations- has his kids take million dollar vacations-his wife takes million dollar vacations- who pays for these vacations I do, but, as a peon I must pay for the life-style of my Dear Leader. Obama is just another face added to the long list of redistribution of wealth LIARS, like===Castro-Chavez, who destroyed countries using the wealth spread around communist dogma. America under Heir Obama is dying-and that is exactly what he wants-force once independent hard working Americans onto his welfare for all list-then Obama Jr. has you just where he wants you---DEPENDENT on Him, for your survival.

That is the Castro-Chavez-Hussein Obama way.===Wake-Up ,American's!!!!!!

 

It may depend on what you mean by "success". The right claims to believe in the concept of morals, and to subscribe to the teachings of Jesus the Christ. His teachings are well known regarding the wealthiest.

So, from that perspective, what is morally "wrong" with trying to better ensure the wealthiest can get into heaven by not being so rich?

 

Only the Right seems to believe that merely covering a multitude of sins through private charity is actually better than actually solving simple poverty in our republic with existing legal and physical infrastructure.

 

Tell us how the ever growing government has helped with the solving of simple poverty. Tell us how the big govt via the New Deal and the Great Society programs have helped reduce or solve the poverty woes. After I read your examples of programs that eliminated poverty in our lifetimes through the over taxing of working Americans, i.e. government, then I'll be curious in knowing what and why you have so much skepticism concerning the effectiveness of having private charities, local churches, states and city localities take care of these poor people. Tell me, do you get on your knees daily to pray to your government god in hoping that it will solve all your problems, and or all of your perceived problems?

 

You may have missed some metrics due to your special pleading:

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I would prefer to pray for true love and perform true love rituals at a temple dedicated to a goddess of Love, while my potential soul mate takes her time with all of the other ones.

 

If you can not see,I can not help you understand........

 

See, this is all just petty crap to me. If more people spent their time focusing on their own (*)(*)(*)(*) instead of on everybody else, they'd have everything they need and wouldn't be getting their feelings all unnecessarily hurt over other people's lives. But most of us are much bigger busybodies than we like to admit.

I've got news for you, daniel. Poverty's not going anywhere. It's been with us since the beginning of time, and it will always be with us. The cool part is that it's all relative. And "American poverty" could hardly be argued to even be poverty at all in the grand scheme of things. Now if you're talking about feeding people who are legitimately starving and dying in other parts of the world, then I'm willing to listen. Because now we're talking about something real.

 

Ah, but this is just an empty moral judgment. Who cares what someone needs? This ties into that busybody thing I was talking about. We're just trying to arbitrarily determine what we think somebody else should have. That's ridiculous and self-righteous.

 

France seems to be doing alright. Perhaps you government is doing it wrong.

 

Hear hear!

Since when was it anyone's job to decide whether I or anyone else has "too much" money? What gives you the right to take away anyone's money just because you think they don't need it? Who gave you the right to make that judgement?

 

Why does the right only want to reduce social spending for the least wealthy in our republic and not drug test corporate welfare recipients in the same manner as they want to drug test the least wealthy in our republic.

Of course poverty is relative in the US, because socialism has solved for most absolute forms of poverty in the US. The point is that corporate welfare even pays multimillion dollar bonuses while the right seems to be overly challenged, morally regarding bearing true witness to our own laws concerning employment at will.

In my opinion, we can still confide in the sincerity of Jesus the Christ regarding the wealthiest.

 

I'll tell you this much. The Founding Fathers sure as hell didn't believe that. They believed in a country where the sky is the limit. Not, "That's enough. Let's let somebody else have a turn." I think a lot of those guys are rolling over in their graves right now when they see how weak and lame the American people have become with their economic demands.

 

Ironically it is in fact that dreaded thing they call "greed" that drives people to push for income redistribution. People never even stop to realize it.

 

Sorry, I meant what do they need that we can sell them. If they do not need a lot of stuff how are they going to support a large economy?

If the wealth is held by large numbers of people they consume things just because they can and that creates a strong economy. If only a few hold most of the wealth their needs are also few.

No morals in my post, sorry.....

 

Are sports stars and movie stars who became millionaires as bad as bankers or doctors who got rich using mostly their brains instead? When you hear about people hating the rich, its always some banker, CEO, or investor. You rarely hear about an actor,Tiger Woods or Lebron James being a scumbag for getting so rich. You rarely see liberals outraged at Al Gore, Steve Jobs or John Kerry being filthy, but Trump is evil? Huh, what?

 

No, the financial sector destabilizes the economy, movies tend to just waste people's time because there's usually even a better movie than the one they are watching. Admittedly I would think more highly of Hollywood if it was devoted more to art than sales.

 

It proved that what you asked was nothing but an attempt to evade the issue, which is self-evidently not inequality but INJUSTICE.

No, Uni, it was not, and you know it. It identified exactly why your question was stupid, illogical, dishonest, and evil.

 

Roy, I've deliberately stopped responding to most of your quotes of my posts precisely because you are unable to directly address the things that I say. You have this bizarre emotional need to go off on these strange victimhood/martyr tangents about quite literally everything whether they have anything to do with what I've said or not. And this thread has proven no different.