Americans distrust Atheists the most

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  1. Troianii

    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I said if we asked Atheists in a similar survey we would find most Atheists would vote for the Atheist candidate over the Christian. You said, "no," followed by why you yourself wouldn't. That's not a refutation unless you speak for all Atheists.
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    No you didn't ask you made a declarative statement.

    I spoke as anyone here can, for myself. YOU have taken it upon yourself to speak for Atheists not me. Where do you get off speaking for all Atheist? And I repeat if Christians voted for someone simply because that person is a Christian then they are fools.
     
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    What % said they would vote for a drone killer or mass murderer, so long as he pretended to be 'Christian'....
     
  4. Troianii

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    "I said if we asked Atheists in a similar survey we would find most Atheists would vote for the Atheist candidate over the Christian. You said, "no," followed by why you yourself wouldn't. That's not a refutation unless you speak for all Atheists."

    :blankstare: you're confused. I said "I said," and your response is "no, you didn't ask..." :applause:



     
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    You better explain this. A religious person as such is not a danger to others so there is no justification for removing them from society as if they are criminals.
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    Yes you made a declarative statement.

    As an atheist I told you it certainly didn't apply to me and you ask why I thought I spoke for all atheist when I made no such statement. I asked you why YOU thought you did is saying most would answer as you indicated.

    "Yet if we asked Atheists if they would vote for an atheists or Christian, knowing only that, the answer would be overwhelmingly Atheist."

    Sooo??????????????????????

    Or is all you have left a semantical dance.

    And do you agree that whether and Atheist or a Christian doing so would be foolish?
     
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    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1. No, I made a general statement and you said "no", using yourself as an example. Grow up. There's nothing wrong with saying "that came out wrong," it happens, but pretending it didn't is just childish and dishonest.
    2. You didn't ask me why I thought people would favor candidates who are members of their 'group', but I did say that.

    3. :deadhorse: Most people would favor those within their own group. This is something that is generally true of all groups, but the study instead has been used to bring Christians into focus.

    4. I believe it's more foolish than voting for a candidate based on their statements and platform, but far less foolish than voting for a candidate because of his skin color.
     
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    Yes as an example of an atheist of which I am.

    Sorry but I have no interest in your sandbox.

    You stated what atheist thought, I asked why you took that liberty and whether you applied it to Christians also and noted the foolishness of either practice.

    Now go play with your toys.
     
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    The face of US Christianity in all its glory.
     
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    The Mongol Empire was the worlds greatest superpower for 150 years.

    Are you suggesting that everyone should strive to be more like the Mongols?

    We can see with our own eyes what things America does right. Religious intolerance is not among them.
     
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    I'm saying that the poor man who trash talks Donald Trump might want to reconsider what he is doing. That's all.
     
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    Christians are supposed to have 75% of the population and only 45% said they would not vote for a Atheist President, that leaves 65% that would

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    Atheists is code for liberal.Liberals assign point men different names to aid in the use of their 99.9% owned US media.This is true for many other titles:vegetarian,doctor[for those who have not been,nor have the IQ necessary for medical school],reverend[for those who are womanizers,plagiarizers,and communist sympathizers],etc.....
     
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    The poor man can still criticize Donald Trump for what he does wrong, though.

    Or does success make a person/country faultless?
     
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    Anybody can do anything. The point was that success leaves clues. And unless this guy is happy being poor, it might behoove him to can the judgment and just watch, listen, and observe. Clearly Trump knows some things about life that the poor man does not.
     
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    If we assume the poor man has done this, do we agree he is free to judge however harshly he wishes?
     
  17. Unifier

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    Like I said, anyone can do whatever they want.
     
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    In a society comprised mostly of Theists, that would seem very likely.

    However, when it comes to being trustworthy, then Atheists reign supreme in America.

    Christians = ~75% of Americans, and also about ~75% of our prison population.

    Atheists = ~10% of Americans, but are less than 1% of our prison population. Ergo, vastly more trustworthy, even if less trusted by those who are themselves, less far less trustworthy than Atheists.
     
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    What are you smoking?

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    What are you smoking?
     
  20. Unifier

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    1) Sauce?

    2) Were these people Christian before they went to prison or did they convert after they were in there? It makes a difference.

    3) If you're using prison population to determine trustworthiness, then you're not going to look too PC when we switch the criterion from religion/philosophy to race. Justsayin'.
     
  21. Archie Goodwin

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    1. Bolognese, prepared with fresh tomatoes, and ground beef, pork and veal. Or on steak, merchant du vin.

    2. No idea. Have you any data on jailhouse conversions?

    3. It is what it is: Atheists are a disproportionately low (very, very much so) percentage of our prison population. So indeed, we're the friggin' poster child for law-abiding / trustworthy. But then, we cannot be forgiven so easily as stepping into a confessional. Maybe that's it. ;) ;)
     
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    Kidding on item 1. I can parse :)

    Federal Bureau of Prisons study, circa 1997, in which Atheists comprised only 1/5th of 1% of the prison population. But when we outlaw cutting edge science and PhD / tenured professorships, obviously, the number of Atheists behind bars should spike significantly.
     
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    Because Christian values have never changed in history! And now I have to stone my neighbor because he seemes to desire my wife.
     
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    True that, because there's definitely at least a subconscious effort to hound and lock up them Christians with their god delusions just like we do them other races for being "not us".

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-august-6-2013/the-r-word
     

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