Lesbian woman demands double standard when she has sex with 15-year-old

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  1. CRUE CAB

    CRUE CAB New Member

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    So? Your point. What is she going to report? "Hey my 15 year old daughter has a 17 year old friend."
    Now its "hey, my 15 year old daughter is being molested by a 18 year old".
    Pretty clear cut actually.
     
  2. SFJEFF

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    Actually- she can- since there is a deal on the table for her right now- but how that related to my post I have no idea.


    Under current law, this 18 year has broken the law- and should be treated just like any other 18 year old- male or female- straight or gay. The prosecutor has lots of descretion and appears to be using it- the family should take the deal.

    I would not react the same way if an 18 year old had preyed on a pre-pubescent 8 year old- and I hope no one else will.
     
  3. CRUE CAB

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    You think Florida procecutors have leeway in charging and sentencing.
    They dont.
     
  4. tkolter

    tkolter Well-Known Member

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    I live in the area they want to drop the charge to child abuse, will settle for a long period of house arrest and no record of a sex offender if she takes the deal, if not she will go to trial.

    They have leeway to determine the actual charges made in fact reducing the seriousness of a charge for a deal is common.
     
  5. SFJEFF

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    As the post below noted- and the articles cited in this thread noted- the prosecutors have already offered a deal- since they have leeway in charging and sentencing.
     
  6. CRUE CAB

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    St Pete is no where near Sebastian.

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    They can offer a deal, but a deal does not mean she is getting much less than the minimum standard sentencing if she were found guilty.
     
  7. SFJEFF

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    I think you are arguing to be argumentative- have you bothered to read the article?


    The Indian River County State Attorney's Office has suggested a plea deal.

    It would allow Hunt to walk away without having to register as a sex offender. She would have to plea guilty to a lesser charge of child abuse, spend two years on house arrest and one year on probation.


    The second-degree felony charges are reportedly punishable by up to 15 years in prison and could require the individual to register as a sex offender. Colton told WTSP Hunt has until Friday to accept a plea agreement that would subject her to two years of house arrest followed by a year of probation.


    Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/region...ase-removes-sex-offender-status#ixzz2U9KTpg2F
     
  8. Blackrook

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    I hope this stupid woman (the mother) doesn't tell her daughter not to take the deal. The deal means she doesn't have to register as a sex offender. That's the important thing.
     
  9. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, pretty clear cut!

    The parents's intention was NOT to protect their 15 year old daughter (or even 14 year old daughter) from the sexual relationship with an 17 year old lesbian, but to make sure that this lesbian would be punished. . .which would NOT have happened prior to her turning 18!

    And, correct me if I am wrong, but it seems that the relationship was either as "damaging" or as "non-damaging" to the 14 or 15 year old when her lover was 17 than when she turned 18.

    The INTENT is WRONG. Since the parents seemed to have been aware of the relationship for some time, and didn't take LEGAL steps to address it, there should have been NO legal recourse when the older of the two women turned 18.

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    Personally I think the deal is still much too severe a punishment.

    Since the parents were aware of the relationship PRIOR to the girl turning 18, and didn't press charge then, they should have no right to do so now.
     
  10. Sadanie

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    It's more than the fact that she is attractive, it is the fact that she is obviously not an "adult offender."

    Did you read the full background? It appears that the parents of the younger girl knew about the relationship PRIOR to the older girl turning 18, but didn't take any step to put an end to it then. . . To me this says a lot about their intention! Don't tell me that it is more "grave" for an 18 year old to have a consensual relationship with a 15 year old than it was for that same person when she was 17 to have the same consensual relationship with a 14 then 15 year old classmate!

    I agree that the parents will probably be successful in "punishing" the older girl. . .but that doesn't make it right!

    I do not believe that the law is always "right" or "fair," and even if I can't change this, I believe it is my right and my duty to express my opinion that this is BS!
     
  11. Dispondent

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    That was addressed. Alcohol is a controlled substance, regardless of age in which it can be purchased, bares no relation to legal responsibilities of an 18 year old, whom is considered an adult by the state...

    You are simply attempting to create scenarios that fit your emotion based arguments with no regard to the black letter law that covers 18 year olds...
     
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    Victimization requires some sort of power. She was a high school cheerleader who had a relationship with another one. What kind of power would she have over her?

    In the end, this is all conjecture until the other girl or their family actually speak out.
     
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    They could have called the parents, or talked to the school if they felt it was inappropriate. At least that way they could take the high ground by saying 'we tried to talk but no one would listen. This is our last resort'. Now they just appear to be over zealous homophobes (remember, I said appear). There are always avenues if one actually takes the time to go through them.

    I just think it's sad for a young girls life to potentially be ruined because of a high school romance. People really need to understand the letter of the law in situations like this so they can protect themselves.
     
  14. Albert Di Salvo

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    This woman is reminiscent of the character Joseph K. in Franz Kafka's The Trial.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trial
     
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    I don't think I could have illustrated my point any more clearly than you did with this post.
     
  16. rstones199

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    Again, an 18 y/o cannot legally purchase alcohol. Therefor an 18 y/o is treated different than a 21+ y/o.

    You simply cannot understand that society treats a 18 y/o differently than a 21+ y/o.

    An 18 y/o having a sexual encounter with a 15 y/o is vastly different than a 21+ y/o having a sexual encounter with a 15 y/o. I'm sorry you cannot understand this.

    There is no emotional arguments, just ad hom attacks buy you. Now, if you want to respond, please do. But leave the stupid ad homs out of it.
     
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    There were other and more effective way to deal with this. Does anyone think that this is the first 14 or 15 y/o to have sex with an 18 y/o?? It's not. Having the girl friend arrested, expelled from school and charged with a felony was not the way to handle this. Very poor parenting IMHO. My opinion has nothing at all to do with the gay aspect of this one.

    I pray that the young girl does not do the unthinkable.
     
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    To any of the liberal morons who can't fathom what an adult is. Can you point to any law on pedophilia where an age difference gap must be considered beyond legal adult age? Any law anywhere?

    This is about as stupid as liberals who claim men who have sex with boys aren't homosexual.
     
  19. rstones199

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    Could you explain why a 18 y/o and a 40 y/o should be subject the same punishment for having sexual relations with a 15 y/o.

    And has been explain ad nausea, child molestation is about power over the victim, not about gender.

    It would be nice for change is the bigoted right would actually use their brain that Evolution provided for them
     
  20. Sadanie

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    I don't know that book, and the quick reading on Wikepedia has not enlightened me!

    But I suspect you may be referring to the non-sense of it all, a satyre of "comedy of error,". . . if that is the case, I do agree!
     
  21. Sadanie

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    If an age difference is not considered as a factor in a case of pedophilia. . .it should be.

    And I know for a fact that a position of authority (as opposed to a position of equality) is considered by the court.

    By the way. . .the age of "18" to determine adulthood is ONLY subjective. Some 16 year olds are more mature than some 21 year old. . . It also depends on the issue. . .for exemple, why is an "18 year old adult" authorize to make a decision that will change his whole life. . .maybe even cost him/her his/her life (i.e., allowed to vote, allowed to join the military) but not allowed to make the decision to order a glass of wine in a restaurant?

    I know. . .it is the "law!"

    All that tells me is that the "law" is based in unsound subjective criteria!
     
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    Actually, had it been an 18-year-old man, we'd likely never have heard a word about it. There was no "heinous" crime, there is no predator. You're projecting again!
     
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    And that can get you the wrath of a wronged teenage girl...possibly in the form of those three magic words: "Daddy molested me!"

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    She needs to skip the country. It really is that simple.

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    I'm not sure if you are trolling, or if you are a bona fide psycho!
     
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    I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the end result here was the girls consummating a suicide pact.
     
  25. Sadanie

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    I certainly hope not. . .but I believe those ridiculous excuse for parents will have lost their daughter for ever!

    This young girl will NEVER forgive them. . .and in less than a year she can request to "divorce" them and be considered emancipated.

    I hope she knows this and takes advantage of it!
     

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