Those American servicemen, their wives, husbands, and intimate partners privacy was violated. The reporters... and their families. Nobody got in any trouble. That is 10s of thousands of those defending the very right to privacy whose privacy was violated, as were all their friends and families. You ask for one, I give you one. You ask for more, I give you more. You ask for mass abuse, I give you mass abuse. You will never be convinced. These are just the things we know about... again... there are 850,000 at least, in the US with access to this. How many do you think work at Haliburton, and does that make you uneasy in the slightest? Freelance intelligence and military contractors... folks like... Academi (Formerly Blackwater). Not bothered by that?
Ahhh, so you've been doing your own surveillance of what's going on throughout the world. I guess we should just pack up and stop gathering intelligence since Amalgam has it all covered!! It's time to grow up and realize there is a real world out there.
Now you are being a little sensationalists. How do you know they monitors 10s of thousands of them? You don't have any real details except one group saying they listened to some private phone calls and another saying they would never do that. You are a drama queen that believes in any conspiracy theory presented to you. Then you take little quips and extrapolate them to these giant massive conspiracies like the government listening to over 850,000 military members phone calls. It is absolutely hilarious how you come to these conclusions.
No, but I know that what they're doing is unconstitutional. So why are we collecting the phone calls of German citizens? What kind of threat do they pose to us? The fact of the matter is that our government is overreaching and they need to explain themselves.
Ahhh, so spying on German citizens is "unconstitutional"? Please show me where in the Constitution it says that it is illegal for us to spy on foreign countries and governments. Please let us know all this information you've gathered in your surveillance programs. I'd love to know what Al Qaeda is up to these days. Maybe you can shed some light on that.
You have two whistleblowers, who were unaware of the others claims, who said they listened to hundreds, each, of private conversations... mocking their intimate calls, grouping together to listen to them, and make fun. That is AT the NSA, where the most strict rules are supposedly enforced. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/exclu...vesdropping-americans/story?id=5987804&page=1 Try addressing the actual point. That there are at least 810,000 outside of the NSA with access to it. Booze Allen had access to it. That means SAIC, Haliburton... all of these places have access to it... and you don't know the first thing about any of them... well except Haliburton... CSC... there are so many of these contract agencies that are part of the larger espionage/black network, whom you only hear about amidst scandal.
Now youre purposely misinterpreting me. Ill split my responses up from now on. Also, its not unconstitutional to spy on the citizens of our allies, but it is bad form. Its one thing to keep an eye out, but collecting billions of phone calls from millions of German citizens is a huge overreach and they should be outraged. Sure, I've got loads of info Al Qaeda that I'll be willing to part with only after you tell me what threat the German citizens pose to our national security.
snowden seems determined to drag the US' name through the mud. Now he's claiming that he needs asylum in Russia because the US will "torture" him. Hasn't this guy done enough damage already?
There is not 810,000 people who have access to intercept any phone call they want and listen in on any phone calls they want. It's already been proven that Snowden greatly exaggerated his capabilities and the oversight over those capabilities. Which is why he didn't actually prove he could do what he said, because he knows he couldn't. And that page is about individuals that were within the terror zone where highly volatile messages were being intercepted. People should be punished for listening to private calls and or sharing information about private calls. No doubt about that. But not sure what kind of point you are trying to prove. The Patriot Act was passed for this very purpose to intercept any calls coming from areas overseas that are areas of targeted extremism without the need of a warrant. Life is tough sometimes. Not sure it's really that big of a deal that 100s of people in Afghanistan or Iraq have their phone calls listened to.
Everyone spies on each other. If you don't think the German's have spying operations on the US or any other country around the world you are just naive. They just don't have crappy citizens who are traitors like Snowden.
Snowden was right to do as he did. He exposed massive snooping on the American people by the American government and serious crimes, committed by the American government against other countries. I'm amazed anyone is against him - if he'd exposed a postman opening your letters, you'd be patting him on the back but that's exactly what your government is doing. You're now all potential criminals and need to be watched in case you do something against the state's interest. It's pretty much what the old eastern block countries used to do and you lot, rightly, said how bad they were for doing it.
No... it has been claimed that Snowden misrepresented the capabilities... by the same people whose lies he already exposed. Again, Greenwald was on George Snuffleupikus this morning and said this very claim is what is being exposed over the next few days... so again... we will wait till Snowden gets his papers, and more will come. Be back then to eat it or rub your nose in it. - - - Updated - - - Just reading the stories on it. Feel free to correct me. I would rather be accurate than right.
