Since we are going in anyways...Time to make a statement.

I was not a happy camper when Obama went public with his desire to supply Syrian Rebels with Arms as we all thought we would be using the CIA to supply Syrian Rebels with Russian made weapons.

So...now that it is obvious we will strike....exactly how should we go about this?

A limited Strike will cause more issues than doing nothing as it will enrage the region and what is needed from a Psychological point is a plan to generate Extreme Fear of U.S. Forces.

We cannot just shoot a few missiles and then hope that all those Syrian Chemical Weapons won't fall into Extremist hands....so what should we do?

I believe this is the right event and moment for our Military to employ First Use High Tech. Weaponry we have been sitting upon.

We are fully capable of rendering the vast majority of Syrian Military Capabilities INERT with zero casualties....however this would effect all electronic specific vehicles and machinery so the after effect and resupply would be extreme.

Still....sending in some B-2's and F/A-22's loaded with various sizes of New and High Tech. Non-Nuclear EMP Devices which once used would shut down ANYTHING with a chip or solenoid.

Nothing scares the hell out of people than shutting down their entire countries ability to do anything....and this even as scary as it would be...could save lives.

AboveAlpha

 

I hope there aren't any hospitals nearby.

 

I would really be P!$$@# OFF if we strike in too limited a way.

People have to understand that if you are going to go to war you must strike in a manner that will destroy your enemy's ability to strike back at you.

Now we certainly have more than enough capability to use Missiles and Bombers and Attack Aircraft to destroy over 90% of the Syrian Military within a few days....but we must also send in the 82nd and perhaps 101st and seize any and all Chemical Weapons sites.

At the same time we do this we must also have our Intel. track and detail all Islamic Extremists working with the Syrian Rebels.

Now....I don't know if our Military would be willing to use EMP's on such a small target as Syria....but if we do use them it would have a very scary effect upon the Psyche of all in that country.

AboveAlpha

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We would have to be prepared to drop in Generators and other necessities.

Such a plan as this would result in deaths....but a HELL of a lot less deaths than if we are dropping JDAMS.

AboveAlpha

 

Everyone knows where the ships are. The Russians can track the missiles and their trajectory. I honestly don't know how they are going to actually damage something of importance.

No matter what happens though, a Lot of innocent people are going to die.

 

like you, if we are going to strike i hope we dont play tiddly winks and just go in there and hit them hard enough fast and early and be done with it.

 

The Russians are not going to do anything.

Obama and Putin already cut a deal.

Russia does not care who is in power in Syria as long as Russian Gas Pipeline Interests are paying off for them.

The U.S. agreed to allow Russia to sell Assad AA Missiles and we also agreed that Putin would PUBLICLY denounce U.S. Aggression upon Syria but in Private...the moment those AA Missiles were shipped and dropped off and paid for....Putin agreed to remove ALL RUSSIAN PERSONAL FROM SYRIA....making it just that much easier for the U.S. Military to strike.

Now think about this.....If Russia and Putin did not want the U.S. to remove Assad if Assad was found to have used Chemical Weapons....RUSSIA WOULD NEVER HAVE REMOVED ALL IT'S PERSONAL!!!!

Russia did remove them because.....RUSSIA MADE A DEAL!!!

AboveAlpha

 

What I worry about is a Limited Strike....is like poking a Hornets Nest with a Stick rather than hitting that nest with Bug Spray.

If we do this we will have to deal with possible Chemical Attacks by either Assad or by Iranian Qud's Force Members operating out of Syria and they would set it up to make it seem that Al-Qaeda did it.

Then we would have to deal with Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Hamas....etc.

Now we certainly are FULLY CAPABLE of handling or destroying ALL GROUPS....but if we do Strike...and I still advocate letting the CIA handle this but it is too late now....we must perform a MASSIVE STRIKE...OVERWHELMING....and such a strike should not be about killing as many as possible or creating as much destruction as possible but rather for the purpose of Psychological Effect.

The U.S. Military is perfectly capable...IF GIVEN THE GO....to strike in a manner that would cause anyone left standing completely through with fighting.

AboveAlpha

 

Obama has effed up everything to date. This won't be any better.

 

Oh, and I'm sure you have some evidence or a source to back up these claims?

 

Yeah....the HISTORY of what actually happened as I am simply stating what everyone did.

AboveAlpha

 

You would be wrong on that one. Why would the rebels let the Russians have the base if Assad is deposed? There is no love or common interest between them, none at all. Russia's credibility is on the line as well. What country on Earth is going to let the Russians have a base in their country if they have a reputation of cutting deals with people that want to depose the host country? Answer: NONE. If there was a deal, that would mean Obama agreed to all the snubs Putin tossed at him recently, and I don't see his high holiness as being one to be snubbed so easily or cheaply...

 

Even if I knew nothing about this I could learn a great deal by looking at what happened.

Russia has LEFT Syria....Putin has removed all Russian Personal.

This happened right after Russia delivered those AA Missiles and Russian Personal even left on the same ship.

All Russia had to do to make it impossible for the U.S. to attack Syria was to leave just 20 or 30 Russian advisers in Syria...but Russia didn't...because the Trade Relationship between the U.S. and Russia as well as between Russia and the E.U. is FAR more important than protecting some Syrian Dictator.

AboveAlpha

 

This little disaster only just begun, the Russians have yet to announce any of their intentions, but have announced they have plans, which means, last minute screw you type plans...

 

Naw...we are PAYING OFF the Russians.

The problem will become if we don't capture all the Chemical Weapons because we only attack by Air.

AboveAlpha

 

If there was a deal why did our stalwart allies bail on us? Russia has been trying to reestablish itself as a global power, making a deal would undo all that work...

 

Russia only has a $1.2 Trillion Economy compared to the U.S. $17.7 Trillion Economy.

Russia really needs a Most Favored Nation Trading Status with the U.S. and E.U. for their economy to grow as it is DISMAL.

AboveAlpha

 

I hear that if Obama bombs without congressional approval he would call it something other than war. The constitution gives congress, not the president, the power to declare war. So administrations call it "police actions" or some thing else.

So it's not war.

If you kill people and it's not war, what is it? Murder?

 

First, let's debunk the conspiracy theory that Putin's Russia is doing this on the behalf of a deal made with the American Empire.

http://www.defensenews.com/article/20130626/DEFREG04/306260023/Report-Russia-Removes-Military-Personnel-From-Syria

Russia did this, to avoid any escalations if any of it's military personnel were harmed by the civil war. Putin said as recently as today that he would only support a strike if we went through the proper channels(IE: The U.N)

Conspiracy theories need to remain in the tin fold hat, especially when evidence is easily available to the contrary.

 

Let's put aside for the moment that there's no threat to your homeland and that this is a straight up offensive attack, how is this justified as a humanitarian effort? It's only going to lead to more loss of innocent life. Assad isn't just going to back down - Syria isn't like Afghanistan, you'd be fighting a conventional war, not an insurgency. Are you ready for that? Are the 27% of Americans who support military action ready for that?

Just on the President's actions in Congress - I think he did a great thing there. The executive never gives up its power, but it's refreshing to see him at least share it with the body it belongs to, de jure. He should set an easy precedent for future Presidents to follow: all military action should be approved by a closed session of Congress.

His execution here was too sloppy, and I've seen nothing but criticism in that so much delay and public debate detracts from the military's security. This need not be the case. Have a closed session, explain your intent and reasons behind the offensive, get the approval of Congress, and secretly carry it all out. Make it known to the public afterwards that you went through the proper channels.

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It's not like that's a lot to ask for.

 

We should have supported the rebels two years ago. We should not do anything now because no one in the conflict is our friend. This has turned from freedom fighters to Islamo Bros. and Al Queda fighters seeking to fill the void after Assad falls. Let the other islamo countries deal with Assad. The USA and Europe should just stay out. No good can or will come from this.

 

Then a simple link to your claims should not be that hard to dig up then.

 

Interesting are you suggesting 2 years ago no Jihadists were involved?

 

Two years ago it was people sick and tired of Assad and his tyranny.

 

Can you back this up or is it your opinion. Keep in mind this Admin denied denied denied terrorists ( specially AQ) had anything to do with the Rebels until they finally had to admit the truth.

 

Why aren't the progressives calling Obama a puppet for Israel? They seem oddly silent. I haven't heard a "No war for oil!" shrill cry either?

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