American Soldiers refuse orders to attack Syria!

“As a response to the U.S. current threats on Syria, we clearly announce our full support to Syria’s people and government in facing the conspiracy and aggression which threaten also our national security”

“We clearly announce our adherence to the Arab destiny and our rejection of the aggression on Syria and the terrorism which is fueled by the Muslim Brotherhood who are supported by Turkey and its NATO partners.”

” We hope that Erdogan remembers that he is not Sultan Abdul-Hamid and Egypt is not a state subordinate to his country either,” adding, ” Egypt is greater than being undermined by such a despicable person"


Judge Tahani el Jebali
VP of Egyptian Supreme Constitutional Court
National Alliance of the Egyptian Revolutionary Forces

 

A few bad apples doesn't mean the whole barrel is spoiled. The vast majority of service members are professional not clowns like the fellows in the photos.

 

French Soldiers are also speaking out against helping Al-Qaeda in Syria

 

You Assad scum need to leave...

 

BRAVE soldiers do NOT hide their faces

 

How many churches are there in Saudi Arabia? 0
Can Saudi women drive a car? No
Can Saudi women go outside alone? No
Can Saudi women wear tshirt and jeans? No
Can Saudi women participate in sports? No
Can Saudi women visit sports stadiums? No
Can Christians and Jews worship openly in Saudi Arabia? No
Are there secular public schools in Saudi Arabia?
Are music lessons allowed in schools in Saudi Arabia? No
Are there movie theaters in Saudi Arabia? No
Are people free to consume alcohol in Saudi Arabia? No
Are foreigners allowed to go anywhere they want in Saudi Arabia? No
Are pets, cats and dogs allowed in Saudi Arabia? No
Are camera phones allowed in the Saudi Arabia? No


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Meanwhile in Syria , you answer YES to all above questions, and YES we have hundreds of churches in Syria and even Synagogues.

Who needs to be &#!@ing reformed? Amazing! The hypocrisy is #&#@ing amazing!

Americans are so hypocritical . Saudis are their biggest allies, and above you see all the things not allowed there! Nobody gives a $#(& !!!

 

But you prove your awareness by making false statements? Your statement says McCain did not listen to tower and release the payload. Let me "inform" you how I know this statement is false. It is because an air traffic controller would NEVER give ANY pilot ANY order to jettison anything. ATC'ers are forbidden to do that. This is because the pilot is always in the best position to make the decision as to whether to jettison anything. And if McCain is on the flight deck, or anywhere close to it, he isn't talking to anyone else, an ATC'er is the only one in his ear.

I know 100% an ATC'er would have never issued this order. An ATC'er is not even legally allowed to tell a pilot his landing gear is down. They have to say "Gear appears down". This is because if they say "Gear is down", the controller can legally be held responsible if it really isn't down, and the pilot makes a decision on that info. Your lack of awareness of air traffic control procedures allowed me to sniff this bit of false propaganda out, which I eagerly jump on because I suspect (but cannot prove other than through logic) that many of your posts in relation to the Middle East are propaganda.

 

I perhaps have no idea who was talking to him, but i watched the video feed, with sound and exactly what transpired between him and who was in his ear, as he 'panicked'.

I watched it myself, and could care less what people think.

I see your point as to who is 'in his ear'.

I see you have a tender appeal, as perhaps even a pilot. But watch the footage and listen.

I will try and find it, but I have zero responsibility to prove anything about that punk. I watched it myself about a decade ago and will always know that what people call a war hero, is actually a weak minded sob.


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I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice


Military members who fail to obey the lawful orders of their superiors risk serious consequences. Article 90 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) makes it a crime for a military member to WILLFULLY disobey a superior commissioned officer. Article 91 makes it a crime to WILLFULLY disobey a superior Noncommissioned or Warrant Officer. Article 92 makes it a crime to disobey any lawful order (the disobedience does not have to be "willful" under this article).

http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/militarylaw1/a/obeyingorders_2.htm


I am against war in general if they are not attacking us here in the US no war. It looks like if theses sailors and soldiers are for real they will be punished unless they prove it is an unlawful order.

 

The punishment for talking in the Vietnamese prison camp he was in was severe beating, sometimes resulting in death. No one spoke, McCain and others developed a tapping system in order to communicate with each other. But every July 4th, the prisoners disobeyed the silence order, despite some of them each year being beat to death, and defiantly chanted the pledge of allegiance to the US.

Weak-minded...probably not.

 

That's a good thing as most liars have little self respect and care not what others think about them. In any case, the video feed with sound is posted above to show the world what you are talking about and, how wrong you are.

 

[video=youtube;4hr37eE0nO8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hr37eE0nO8[/video]
McCain prevented the rescue of missing Americans in Vietnam.

 

Attacking Syria is unlawful- according to international agreements and US responsibilities under its UN Charter pledges. What do you do when your State is acting unlawfully ? What should the soldiers ordered to attack the Warsaw ghetto have done ?

 

Watched video, Trial by Fire: A Carrier Fights For Life (1973) that blames the disastrous fire upon a mysterious missile that shot to towards the stern and struck several aircraft.
They show video footage of a missile shooting off a parked plane. But the missile shoots forward off the plane towards open water, not towards the stern.

[video=youtube;U6NnfRT_OZA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6NnfRT_OZA[/video]

 

They should be punished anyway. Because no orders have been given...yet. Many here seem to think that soldiers can consider possible orders, and debate on whether those orders are lawful or not, before they are even issued. This isn't how any military in the history of the planet has operated. They don't get to consider Obama's options along with him, and publicly condemn some of those options as they are being considered. Obama is the commander. They should be preparing to carry out his orders, not debating them. If there any unlawful orders that are issued, the specific order can be disobeyed if it clearly violates Geneva conventions, human rights, etc. Only then can the order be debated, and it is nowhere near clear whether or not military intervention in Syria violates the Constitution as many of these folks claim.

Because these soldiers are attempting to influence the options of their commander, (many of them certainly having little concept of constitutional interpretation to begin with, even if they were permitted to participate in the debate), before any order has been given, and their effect on world opinion of the US military, and the US goals in Syria, I think these soldiers should be punished. I would consider low level treason charges.

 

I think we should not attack, I have contacted my representatives and asked to vote against war . I would have read up on the Warsaw Ghetto to give an answer.

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If no orders have been given there is no crime. It would be like arresting someone because they said they would speed in a month

 

The soldiers that stopped the Mai Lai massacre were later executed under cover of a battle.
US soldiers that objected to US atrocities in Iraq are suicided or their vehicles are blown up with them inside. A special trigger is mounted by the front bumper so that as the truck travels down its assigned route, it will trigger a bomb waiting for that trigger.

The only way a soldier can stop atrocities committed in front of him is to kill the ones doing the atrocities. It is likely to get him killed. But complaining about it after wards gets him killed anyway.

 

Does that mean, he did not cause the deaths on the deck of the carrier?

Does that mean, he is honest and representing 'americans' in the senate?

No to both.

Since i can share the experience of menage a trois, does that make me the most interesting man of the world?

 

Thanks

No one want to see your paint job sink.

 

I am not a war monger but I doubt Syria can sink the Mayflower

 

syria is not a war monger either. If they were, the golan would be syria, again.

I hope you're right. I would rather be wrong, then right.

If im right, ww3 is about to unfold and it will be nuclear. And i bet that before THAT war is over, our own subs, will be hunting our own subs.

Any bets?

 

The conclusion of this video makes no sense. They couldn't come up with a reason why McCain would stay another 5 years in a Vietnamese prison camp, when he was offered release. The video commentators say that McCain did this, because he knew it would be the end of his naval career if he left that prison. What a ridiculous analysis. Is that really what people think of when faced with a decision to stay in a Vietnamese prison camp for a few more years? I submit that it is not. And it discredits the whole video imo.

 

The American subs will be hunting the subs operated by the Synogog of Satan guys?

 

What the witnesses were testifying to is McCain's efforts to block the release of Americans held in North Vietnam and elsewhere. The video's hypothesis is that McCain was trying to block access to data and witnesses as to what really happened during his time there, to protect himself.

 

Trial by Fire: A Carrier Fights For Life (1973) that blames the disastrous fire upon a mysterious missile that shot to towards the stern and struck several aircraft.
They show video footage of a missile shooting off a parked plane. But the missile shoots forward off the plane towards open water, not towards the stern.
Is this is a video designed to cover up McCain's role in causing the disaster on the USS Forrestal?
View attachment 22291 still shot showing that video is not telling the truth.
[video=youtube;U6NnfRT_OZA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6NnfRT_OZA[/video]