American Soldiers refuse orders to attack Syria!

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  1. Never Left

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    I call BS. This is as phoney as Islam is a religion of peace.

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    I agree. Go Seahawks!
     
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    There are not many Egyptians today doubting that Morsi DID in fact make a deal with the USA and Hamas and Israel to allow Sinai to be used for Palestinians!!!
     
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    The US Government Stands Revealed to the World as a Collection of War Criminals and Liars






    By Dr. Paul Craig Roberts
    Global Research, September 06, 2013




     
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    Call it what you wish

    but claiming that I lied 9 times is a lie by a punk troll.
     
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    Syrian Army Lieutenant Engineer Majd Al Shami who was killed in clashes with FSA and Al Qaeda militants in the ancient Christian village of Maaloula, His unit came to the aid of trapped Christian residents in the city. Remember the heroes forever.

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    Bashar Al-Assad and his wife Asma are photographed in the same village during visit of a Christian orphanage in 2008.

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    More photos of that Christian village that came under al-qaeda attack and is now being defended by Syrian Army.

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    It looks beautiful.

    But. Those that are really behind this... they have always been the destroyers.

    Maurice Samuel

    "You Gentiles"

    "We Jews,we the destroyers: whatever you put up, we tear down. It is true only in a relative sense. We are not iconoclasts deliberately: we are not enemies of your institutions simply because of the dislike between us. We are a homeless mass seeking satisfaction for our constructive instincts. And in your institutions we cannot find satisfaction." –You Gentiles, page 146–147."



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Samuel
     
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    Those who say they are of Abraham and are not, but are of the Synogog of Satan, want to destroy the foundation of Western Civilization, Syria, so that the haters of mankind can create their own history and culture with no opposition.

    To the haters of mankind, 'peace' means no opposition to their bloody lusts.

    Genetically and culturally, most Americans are Syrians, yet in our deluded, hoodwinked, Pavlovized condition we are lusting to murder our mother.

    Those who deny that, tell why your leaders are raging to do it for you? Why do you allow it?
    Could it be because America has been invaded and usurped by a force that is alien to America's Divine purpose?
     
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    Isolationism doesn't work in the modern world. If the US withdrew all forces from the ME, many mistakenly believe that a new era of peace would result in the region. This is dead wrong, and I posit that without US security in the region, the place would fall apart into chaos. We are desperately trying to keep the region stable. Why? Because the world gets its oil from there, and without oil, modern societies around the world would collapse. I'm not sure how people don't see that the US (and the UN!) need to prevent dictators from just steamrolling each other in that region. We have an interest in not just leaving what plays out to chance. Good leaders don't leave their people's fates to chance. And I have zero doubt that all of you proclaiming the US as the bully will be proven wrong if the region falls into chaos. People that cry against intervention in the ME underestimate the importance of oil; world citizens take it for granted that this black liquid sustains their existence. And if that oil flow is stopped or severely inhibited, they will wake up. And it is then, when they are dying of mass starvation, and modern societies are collapsing that they will finally realize: "Hey, maybe we should have done something about those whimsical dictators and tiny percentage of terrorists who didn't want the West doing business in the Middle East. Maybe we shouldn't have allowed such a small group of people, to dictate to the world who gets oil, based on their view of a religion, or whatever perverse views they may have."

    You really don't understand why these countries must be democracies? We cannot allow a small group of men to dictate to the world who gets the oil.
     
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    If you were in charge of a military, it would collapse within a week. Me and you can debate all we want about Syrian intervention. But soldiers in uniform cannot. This is how all armies work since the beginning of time. Allow soldiers to debate their superior's orders, before being given, and you lose your military very quickly.
     
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    U.S. doesn't give a $#*& about democracy. They only bring it up when it suits them.

    Remember when U.S. overthrew a democratically elected Iranian leader in the 1950s and installed the Shah?
    U.S. deals with countries such as Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait. These are some of the most violent and least democratic states in world. Women and minorities have absolutely no rights there. Wheres the democracy? Why doesn't U.S. tell them to reform and modernize? They dont because they could care less.

    How's the American democracy working out in Afghanistan? Women are treated lower than dirt, Afghan culture and history destroyed by the Taliban, the same guys that U.S. supported in 1980s.

    How's the American democracy working out in Iraq and Libya? Libya has become a failed state that is in complete ruin and lawlesness. Iraq has become a hellhole of huge proportion with sectarian violence. The ancient Christian community that has been there for thousands of years, has disapeared as the result of U.S. aggression in Iraq. 200,000 Iraqis dead, millions wounded and tens of thousands affected by depleted uranium and white phosphorous used by America.

    Stop telling others they cannot live without America. Iraq, Syria and Libya were there before America was even around. The Christian communities in those areas have been there for 2000 years. Your country has destroyed those communities by invading, bombing and decimating Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan . Stop meddling in other countries affair , the world can survive without U.S. being world police. World was much more peaceful 50 yrs ago when U.S. could not do what it wanted because the USSR could punch them in the mouth if they got too agressive. Now U.S. thinks its the world bully that can destroy and attack whatever it want simply because other countries do not support American policies.
     
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    I was a US soldier and have been to Iraq twice and Afghan once. And the only thing that opened up my eyes was looking out the plane window dozens of times while over the Persian Gulf, and seeing that massive network of ships, and structures all along the coasts, supplying the world's oil. I thought: VULNERABLE, when I looked down. And it is. This region's stability is important. To all. And I never witnessed a murder fest, ever. Not 1 iota of evidence for it. You guys got 1 wiki helicopter video taken way out of context, and that's it for 12 years of fighting. Notice how those in this thread are easily finding vids of mass executions and murder in Syria, but in 12 years of the US wars, you got 1 Baghdad heli video (that wasn't murder, it's called collateral damage)? If mass murder was going on, in the modern age, there would be vids. There aren't. So I'm wondering why you say murderfest.
     
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    All of this chaos was happening in the region with or without the US. We are just trying to do our best to maintain stability. Relearn the lessons of WWII please to understand why.
     
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    You have got to be joking! Look at all the countries before and after your interference, Iraq, Afghanistan pre soviet invasion and US funding and training of original Al Qaeda, Libya etc. Get real.
     
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    How is

    Supporting mujahadeen in Afghanistan and Pakistan
    Overthrowing a secular govt in Iraq
    Overthrowing a secular govt in Libya
    Overthrowing a secular govt in Syria
    Overthrowing a secular govt in Egypt and Supporting Muslim Brotherhood
    Continue to support radical Islamist ragimes in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait

    How do these above things maintain stability? Please explain to me.
     
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    So the US encouraged the Iran-Iraq war? How? Are you really saying, after taking a good long look at the bio of Saddam, that it was the US's fault that Iraq and Iran went to war? Was it the US's fault that Saddam stormed across the Kuwaiti border? Was it the US's fault that one of his last acts was to fire a bunch of missiles into Israel, a country not even in the coalition that was attacking him? No, Saddam would have been going to war with various nations with or without the US.
     
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    The US was trying to mind its own business until WWII. But we were dragged into it, and it has never ended! We never stopped fighting after the war; the Soviets became our targets, as we became theirs. This was not the result of some ill will or evil on the part of either side imo. It was simply the recognition by leaders of both nations of what Hitler and Japan had proved in WWII. They proved that the days of playing isolationist and waiting to get involved in wars until absolutely necessary were over. Technology in the arena of warfare has caused this human condition. Hitler and Japan simply were the first to prove how quick and devastating one nation can take over another nation. We haven't stopped "policing" the world since. And if we do stop, you will see various nations storming across the borders of other nations all over the world. The US and USSR kept this from happening all of this time, through the various political games we have played (the above which you speak of). And not that the USSR has fallen, the US is alone in trying to prevent chaos. Chaos that is possible because of war technology, the tactics of this technology first used by Hitler's blitzkrieg.
     
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    You need to read up. We certainly encouraged that war. Really read up a bit I don't have the energy to educate you about our twisted policy in the middle east.
     
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    Dear world we have over 12000 murdered every year in the US. We have more in poverty than the entire population of Syria, we owe more money than many nations entire budgets, We have more old people than the population of Syria.

    We are a broke ass country and can not afford to fight your wars and support our enemies any longer! Buck up and do it your damn selves!

    Yeah that girl would probably not hesitate to cheer the beheading with a knife of a US troop.
     
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    Not necessarily. If the Order to go is unconstitutional they can not really be held accountable. The oath is to the constitution.
     
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    Pre invasion, Saddam was responsible for the deaths of at least 1M people, and that's not including this responsibility for the deaths of Iraqis and Iranians in that war. Take that 1M and divide it by the years of Saddam's reign, and you will see that less people died annually under the US invasion than were dying with Saddam in power.
     
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    Amazing how many Americans our ignorant about our laws and history. No one takes an oath to the President the whole thing is about supporting our constitution. We as citizens even have an obligation to overthrow a despotic govt if it threatens the constitution.the brave Egyptian people did that very thing. And they were without an intact constitution but had an intact military.
     
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