Government shut down?

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  1. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    I know what freedom is and what it means. The problem is that ACA is many things, but it is not dangerous to anyone or anybody. That is simply not true and comes from radio shock jocks woho onyy say those things for pure entertainment values/.
     
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    Are you kidding?

    Thousands of full time workers are seeing their jobs go part time with millions more sitting on the bubble.

    Insurance rates in most states are going up for people who already had insurance and do not need ObamaCare.

    Others are losing their current insurance and will be forced to go begging to the exchanges to find something.

    ObamaCare is hurting more people than it helps.
     
  3. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for proving my point. In your example, you cited the cash on hand that is 3 times the amount of the loan or loans. That is the .5% part I am talking about. More than likely, if you have a mortgate of x dollars, casho on hand, including any retirement accounts, will generally be less. Otherwise, a person would not borrow money if there is enough cash on hand to begin with.

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    Isn't that the choice of the employer to dictate whether to hire part time or full time? Or do you want to force employers to only hire full time?
     
  4. GoneGoing

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    I hope the Republicans in the Senate show up today wearing the Indian war bonnets.
     
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    The employers are responding to a law imposed on them by Obama, Pelosi and Reid.
     
  6. montra

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    I personally have lost all faith in the federal government. I don't even believe that conservatives are represented there. My guess is that they keep a few "conservative" representatives around so that they can blame them for all of life's problems. For example, the plan might be to have a "conservative" get in there and cause a default and make the whole economy collapse. That way progressives can put the full blame on the collapse on conservatives and a free market instead of taking responsibility for driving up the debt to unsustainable levels. Perhaps initiating a collapse sooner than later would be good propaganda so that they can use it to create a new government devoid of Constitutional freedoms and conservative principles.

    I think the IMF already has plans on what to do for the world wide economic collapse. Perhaps they will centralize power further internationally. That would be my guess.
     
  7. DonGlock26

    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    The House sent a spending bill to the Senate again. It is Reid and Obama who are threatening to shut down the gov't because it will not support Obamacare.

    They ARE the two men threatening to close down your precious gov't.

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    I wonder, if Obama will freeze all EBT cards and shut off all Obama phones?
     
  8. Mac-7

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    You have but Obama voters have not.

    The worse thing get the more they need Obama and the nanny state.

    That's why the suck ass Obama economy actually helps him politically even when his policies ate responsible for it.

    And why when ObamaCare destroys the private Helton system voters will turn to Obama and the nanny state to take care of them.
     
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    Malik Hussein Obama, President Obama’s half-brother in Kenya is the architect of the Muslim Brotherhood’s financial investments.


    Government shut down? Yes, please.


    And what do the idiot dem voters like about it??? Go ahead and tell us what you like. Maybe the young voters that put this gun to their own heads will like having to pay very high prices for insurance that they don't need? Maybe the old fool dem voters will like sitting in the hospital next to a dead person as they wait for care that has been judged unnecessary for the health of the liberal horde. I can see that the Black dem voters will suffer - which seems to be their hobby - whatever it takes to do the biding of the dem plantation owners.

    It would not surprise me if most conservatives had been preparing for this for some time now. I don't have a mortgage on my tow acre property in the edge of a small Texas town with deer in the back yard so with cooler weather coming I can stay warm and secure with little trouble even if the electricity goes off.

    When Clinton shut the government down last time one of the big three media whores went around DC to ask what the little people thought. They went to one of the government agencies that deals with the public and asked what the guy at the desk thought so he sat his coffee cup down and called the people from the back. They came out drinking coffee too and the fattest one was eating something. Not one of them seemed in a panic but the recited the dem talking points, knowing that a shut down meant that they would be off work with pay.

    Help WG and tell us why you like this health care take over??
     
  10. dujac

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    something tells me that extortion by anarchists in the tea party isn't going to bode well for them
     
  11. Talon

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    The feeling is mutual. Enjoy the shutdown.
     
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    Again...right-wing logic.

    Give us everything we want in exchange for nothing and do it NOW!!!

    How pathetic. Enjoy the drubbing that the Republicans get in the next election.

    Oh look, the Stock Market is already starting to plummet.

    The T-Party terrorists may accomplish what Al-Qaeda couldn't.
     
  13. potter

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    I don't care much either way, although at this point the specter of a shutdown is improving my investments, so like any true American capitalist, if someone else's pain is my gain, then it must be good. :cool:

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    Indeed...one cannot help but notice the spanking the republicans are getting in the media over this tantrum.
     
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    Actually, given that Obama was re-elected on the basis of implementing Romneycare/Obamacare, it kinda seems most folks DO want it.
     
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    It's a "win-win" !

    I wonder if we would even notice a shut down... aside from the left whining about it.
     
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    The economy is only sucking for losers my friend. Those of us in the top 15%, we're doing fine.

    We love Obama....
     
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    Nothing in your post is true

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    They've been doing this for eight years. It has nothing to do with Obama or the ACA
     
  18. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unless you're participating in the Democrats' entitlement-based vote buying racket you probably won't notice a thing.

    I see this as win-win, too. The government has been pared down to essential services and I'm cool with that.
     
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    The bottom 40 percent who sit at home making babies and vote for Obama while the middle class works to support them are not doing so bad either.

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    Its all true.

    Obamacare is taking away from people who already have health insurance and giving it to people who do not.

    That is an injustice to the Americans who provide for themselves and were not begging from the government.
     
  20. dairyair

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    How?
    And when the shutdown ends, back to normal and they all get back pay. Nothing gained in terms of saving money. Actually will probably cost taxpayers more money.

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    Isn't bald face lying against TOS?
     
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    Good article... some snippets:

     
  22. rahl

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    Nothing in this post is true either
     
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    I wish it were a lie.

    Unfortunately Obama is taking from those who have health insurance and good healthcare so that he can reward his voters who have not provided healthcare for themselves.
     
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    Actually, it is all true.
     
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    Blind stupidity should be.

    The part you bolded and replied to....
    Obamacare is raising the premiums of people already employed and insured, and using it to fund coverage for people who aren't.
    This isn't a secret. Even Obama has admitted that much.

    ffs...
     

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