If only the English were more like this.

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Jack Napier, Sep 29, 2013.

  1. Mandrake

    Mandrake New Member

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    That's only if one doesn't believe votes in my country count. Here, you basically have the rich kissing the arses of the mob to sway it to vote their group into power while the minority group gnashes its teeth in anger and does whatever it can to mess things up for the majority. I believe we are seeing that now with the minority of a minority party doing what it can to shut our Government down because they aren't getting their way. BTW, this hissy fit that you don't believe in is going to affect your country economically.
     
  2. Jack Napier

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    Well those that can see that their vote does not count is already, imo, far wiser and street smart than one who still naively clings to the notion that it really does.

    In practice all you get to do is vote for which of the lackey's of the plutocracy gets to do their bidding. The last time over, you got to choose between Obama being that lackey again, or Romney. Apparently the voters chose Obama. But they may as well have chose Romney. Oh sure, their exterior and manner seemed very different. As did some of their rhetoric. But I assure you, as much as Mitt was cast as 'the bad cop', and Obama 'the nicer cop', the truth is it does not matter which had been picked.

    We see this with Bush/Obama. Of I am sure you can cite superficial differences on the matters they give you to disagree on, but they don't work for on behalf of any of you guys, unless you are part of their club.

    And you aren't on the guest list.

    Most Americans are disenfranchised from Brand USA.

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    Would you rather live in a country where the media treats Kim Kardashian is a faux-princess? I will gladly trade you the bottom of the royal barrel for that whole family.
     
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    Ozzy had it right when he said that there are no legitimate kings or queens.
     
  5. Jack Napier

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    Like what?

    Outsourcing all your industries to China?

    Getting you into ever increasing levels of debt?

    Poisoning you all with big pharma?

    Dumbing you down with corporate news media?

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    False dichotomy.

    I don't do them.
     
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    Besides which, I doubt if there is a truly Christian monarchy now in all of Europe.

    Many of the lines were bred into long ago, and not so long ago as well.

    The last true Christian monarchs were the Romanov's.

    The bloodlines of what passes for a 'royal family' here, those bloodlines have been bred into. One only need compare pictures of Diana and Zak Goldsmith to start seeing where I am coming from... View attachment 22769
     
  7. Mandrake

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    I guess you'd have to live here to actually see that there is a vast difference between the Democrats and Republicans. Its like the world changes when one party takes over from another. In my personal experience, there was a huge difference between the Nixon era and Jimmy Carter. There was a huge difference when Carter's gang got tossed and Reagan's gang came in for the next 12 years. Everything changed again when Clinton's crew took over everything and it was vastly different from that when Bush's gang snatched the ball. There hasn't been much of a difference between Obama and Bush internationally, but domestically, I can assure you that a lot more roads are being built and repaired and there is this huge paradigm shift between the Free market healthcare industry and the new laws that Republicans are ready to go to war over.
     
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    The days of Carter et all were a long time ago now, mate.

    Decades. And much has changed in the time since then. Mostly not for the good, not if you are an ordinary American and are speaking about matters relating to privacy etc.

    I don't even think you would be a 'allowed' a Jimmy Carter type these days, not saying he was brilliant at all things, I simply think that he would not be one of those that would be a pre selected choice for you, these days.

    The closest thing I heard to him in the US mainstream was Ron Paul. But you were never going to be given a real chance of getting him, even if he was a better man with a better heart for Americans than Obama and Mitt put together(not hard).

    They haven't quite gotten around to banning candidates or parties in the US(yet), but they barely need to. All they need do is ensure that the two candidates that they want have a ton of $$$ thrown at them, and that any others do not.

    I fully get where you are at one your other points, however, like I said, it would not work unless they played out the theatre of dissent and argument.

    And of course, it goes without saying that in order to create a false left/right situation, they do give you a few relatively banal crumbs to argue over, be it gay marriage, or 'obamacare', or whatever.

    However, on the key issues they will be basically the same. Their so called foreign policy will not differ much. Nor will their position on the much hated Patriot Act, nor will it shift on calling the NSA or CIA into account, and nor will either dare suggest a revamp or even scrapping the Fed(as it is).
     

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