Fox News calls it a "slimdown" not a shutdown

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    http://www.foxnews.com/

    wow, they really do think they can confuse and lie to the people.

    why don't they tell my friends who work for the State Dept. who have two kids and a mortgage, that they are furloughed as part of a "slimdown"?

    such hyper-partisan jerks!!
     
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    Let me ask you this? Is Obama still getting HIS pay?

    Is the military still slaughtering people in Afghanistan? Is the mail still coming?

    So when you were on strike with the union did you consider getting the employer to cease PART of his operation a "Shut down"?

    Which side is lying with rhetoric?

    The government isn't "shut down".....
     
  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    part of the govt. is indeed shut for business.

    stop lying about the truth.
     
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    So if part of something is removed, I guess you could call it a slim down.

    If the entire thing is removed, wouldn't you call it a shut down?

    This feels like someone really reaching to attack FOX
     
  5. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    why did they suddenly decide to change terms?

    to lesson the blow.
     
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    Good ol' Frank Luntz.

    He could come up with a pleasant sounding term for a big bag of burning dog poop left on your doorstep.

    Not that either side would utilize deliberately developed terms and sound bites based on communication psychology to either postively or negatively influence their less than brilliant viewship.

    It seems influencing the pre-disposed masses is rooted in simple to misunderstand but highly sophisticated bumpersticker slogans and labels coupled with massive repetitions.

    The sad part is way way too many people are oblivious to this blatant manipulation. It creates a nation of mindlessly ill informed citizens with a unquenchable thirst for unproductive intransigent partisan bullcrap.
     
  7. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    reminds me of "Homocide Bombers" and "Freedom Fries".

    Conservatives love to mess with the English language when it serves their political agenda.
     
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    Since most of the government isn't actually "shutting down" and the ridiculous amount of overhead and useless jobs in the gov't are being slimmed down....

    I'd have to say that once again FOX is dead on.... and still smarter than you.
     
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    Yeah, those silly conservatives and their "Violent Rhetoric" label whenever someone disagrees with them, and of course the overused, and absently effective "homophobe".

    Dumb Righties.




    You sure do find the dumbest things to whine about.
     
  10. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    personal attacks is all you guys have.
     
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    Well, some services are too daft. A service that searches for hikers..? and should the liberal be left holding the bag? defending the hikers? who cares..
     
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    and brains.
     
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    You've apparently gone to a great deal of searching to find one of the least essential, however , for those persons in its employ , its a job - a lively hood, a means to support their families, etc,etc ..
    But I doubt the lively hoods of others . matters to you - WOT ?


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    So, what? The taxpayers should pay for useless jobs just so those people will have employment? How about they find worthwhile things to do instead?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    how do you feel about subsidies to American farmers, and the fact that the Department of Defense is a massive jobs program for Americans?
     
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    Like what ?

    btw - don't you think the lives of hikers are NOT worth saving ?
     
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    For the hundreds of thousands of workers who won't get paid, this is a shutdown.

    For all the veterans who can't sign up for their VA benefits, this is a shutdown.
     
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    We should cut that spending as well.
     
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    Like a real job.

    If you want to wander off in the woods, don't expect me to pay someone to find you when you get lost. You assume the responsibility. Take a compass.

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    Great reason why there shouldn't be so many of them, huh? As someone who doesn't suck the government teat, I haven't noticed the shutdown at all.
     
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    The left will all ways win the arguments because they pull on the heart instead of the mind.

    Like was just posted ...

    Right - I don't want to pay for useless jobs, they hurt our economy.

    Left - so you want these people to die or be hurt?

    You are never going to win looking like the bad guy
     
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    Lol.. so true
     
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    They all do have compasses and are aware of the direction they're hiking ,. Emergency call outs are mainly due to sudden /unpredicted changes in weather conditions.

    -but I take it you've spent your life at a keyboard /armchair etc + have never done any hiking/mountaineering or other outdoor pursuits , so you wouldn't know what's happening in the real world + what's its all about, would you ?.:roll:


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    Lost hikers are searched for by the Civil Air Patrol, which is the USAF auxiliary. We do over 90% of the inland search and rescue in USA. We are volunteers and we do not get paid. The time we spend volunteering gets credited to our USAF reserve time; but that's it. The only cost at all to taxpayers is that USAF pays for the aircraft and that our missions are controlled by USAF. We are now flying some drug interdiction flights for Homeland Security, but when we do that I believe Homeland Security must pay USAF for use of the aircraft and flight control personnel. But we still do not get paid when we fly those high-bird mission for Homeland Security. Still free. We do other things for free. CAP was the first to fly over Twin Towers and survey the damage when 9-11 happened. CAP sank German U-Boats off the coast of USA with our non-gunned single engine search-and-rescue aircraft by manually dropping bombs on the boats. We also teach most of the aerospace education to children in High School and Middle School.
     
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    Most of the states that get farm subsidies are Red states, paid for by mostly by Blue states. I would think the GOP is all for continuing farm subsidies.
     
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    Yes the President of the United States is an essential job.

    Well I don't know but the military is essential.

    Yes because the USPS is a private company not funded by tax payers and is not on the Federal budget.

    Ignorance is the coin of the right wing realm....they beg for a shut down then say it is horrible.

    The right wing....

    You keep telling yourself that....the right wing noise machine thinks you are stupid.......this will prove it.

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    I assume anyone who uses these phrases of call it the democrat party are just sheep of the noise machine....who believe them to be stupid.
     

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