The Republicans Are Threatening Social Security and Medicare With A U.S. Debt Default

If you're a person who votes Republican and relies on Social Security and Medicare, I must warn you that both of those programs could be completely DISMANTLED if John Boehner and the Tea Party decide to default on the debt obligations of the United States. This is something that many Tea Party people want because they never liked those programs in the first place. Programs like Social Security and Medicare are Socialist programs that were created by the Democrats to help honest, hard-working people when they retire. My suggestion to you is that if you vote Republican, THINK TWICE before you fill out your ballot in the upcoming elections. You could be voting to end the programs that you depend on.

 

Fear mongering has been sooooo overdone by this administration.

Sorry, greg... no one is buying the sky is falling routine anymore.

*yawn*

Voters, plz vote for Democrats if you want even more chaos & discord in America.

 

So you're saying that a U.S. debt default doesn't threaten Social Security and Medicare?

 

If that's what you're wagering, what do you expect it will be?

 

You can't answer my question because you know it's the truth. Millions of people who vote Republican rely on Social Security and Medicare. Why would the Republicans want to hurt their own voters?

 

Why would the Obama administration be making them knowing full well who they are and what they believe?

 

Awesome--attach a delay in the individual mandate with a SS CR and let Obama save Social Security. If he doesn't sign it, then his fear-mongering blows back in his face.

 

The government shutdown was planned by the Republicans months ago. John Boehner came up with the idea of threatening Obama with a U.S. debt default. Watch this video if you don't believe me. Marco Rubio clearly states that the government should SHUT DOWN. This party is getting too dangerous for the people who rely on programs like Social Security and Medicare.

[video=youtube;TMhf9SrbY3U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMhf9SrbY3U[/video]

 

The GOP gave in on Sequestration, the first CR this year, and now this. Of course they knew it was coming. They compromised and compromised and now they are not as of yet. Of course the real problem isn't the President. It is the Vegas Mormon in the US Senate that the left worships who is the problem. It is the same person who has been at the root of all of Obama's problems. Nancy and Harry have kept the President's hands tied. Now that poor Nancy is in the minority, it is hard work for Reid to be the sole moral leader of our country while wearing itchy magic underwear.

 

They're not going to default, that's not what happens if we don't raise the Debt ceiling.

Interest on our Debt will be $25 Billion in October, we will have over $200 Billion in revenue. Think we can't scrounge up the cash by leaving 1.9% of the discretionary crap unfunded?

 

The only reason why the Republicans compromised on Sequestration is because it would have been considered a "tax hike" to the Tea Party. If the U.S. defaults on its debt obligations, the government will literally be forced to balance the budget overnight. To most Tea Party people, this sounds like a dream come true. But to the average Republican who relies on Social Security and Medicare, it means disaster. It also means disaster to the U.S. economy which will spill over into other countries. It's not like the Tea Party really cares because all they're concerned about is cutting spending regardless of the consequences.

 

I'm still waiting for our roads to crumble and our houses to burn without fire-fighters like we were told before the Sequester. So far, nobody but federal employees who lost pay to furlough days have suffered. (And odds are good that once the sequester is over, congress will vote them backpay for all the days they missed)

Round & round & round we go... where it stops, nobody knows.

Mainly because the POTUS doesn't have a clue.

 

That's not what happens? Economists are saying that it could result in a huge downgrade of the U.S. credit rating which makes it far more expensive for this country to borrow. If the U.S. can't borrow, then it must cut programs like Social Security and Medicare to balance the budget. It could also cause a massive sell-off of U.S. Treasury bonds which could be catastrophic. I don't think you're seeing the whole picture.

 

Are you an economist? If not, then why are you denying their professional opinions? You sound just like the Tea Party people who are causing this mess. All they're concerned about is cost cutting with little regard to the consequences of those massive cuts.

 

There was a tax hike in the sequestration deal the GOP agreed to--a 2% SS withholding increase. With SS only having about a 4% deficit with the prior tax relief and an inproving economy and fantastic Obama Jobs Numbers, then the SS system could be brought into balance with modest adjustments anywhere in the budget. Of course, it isn't seniors the democrats are worried about, but TANF and WIC recipients. Republicans on the other hand are more worried about the abrupt end of Quantitative Easing and collapsing consumer confidence just before the Holidays in an already softened economy sending the markets back to 2008 levels. It would be nice if each side at least owned up to their concerns without trying the "Let's rattle the AARP cage and blame the other side for the fun of it" routine yet again.

 

This thread is a fail - everyone would lose their benefits, dems and repubs. You think you can come on here and spout this idiocy 'sky is falling' tactic to influence some people to pressure Boehner to give Barack back track his way? LOL! There are ten democrats that voted with Cruz on the defunding. Not all people for this shutdown, because of petty tyrant Barack is a republican. No matter what your media tells you - party hack.

 

By honest hard working people you mean those stealing from future generations, those who'll be left with all the debt....... those honest people?

 

I don't think you see the long-term picture: This is going to happen anyway. Spending on Medicare and Social Security is unsustainable, both are set to see their funds exhausted within 15 years.

Currently, yes, we are set to see a credit down-grade by one of the big three (the only one who stilll gives us a AAA rating), but we're not going to default.

 

How is this thread "a fail"? The point I'm trying to make is that the people who support Social Security and Medicare could be voting to end those programs if they vote Republican. If you vote Democrat then you're not because obviously the Democrats created those programs. And while you may sit there and blame Obama for the government shutdown and the possible U.S. government default, he isn't the one who suggested that these two things should happen. Neither are the Democrats. It's the Republicans who WANTED the shutdown. It's the Tea Party Republicans who want a government default because it would force the government to balance the budget. Balancing the budget in our current economic state would mean putting an end to Social Security and Medicare.

Here's a video of Marco Rubio stating that the Republicans should SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT:

[video=youtube;TMhf9SrbY3U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMhf9SrbY3U[/video]

 

If it's good for 15 years then why does the Tea Party want to put an end to Social Security and Medicare through a government default in the near future? Read some of the comments on the internet. Those people are enjoying the government shutdown and want to see the government default. Cutting spending to them has no boundaries.

 

What happens if this results in a massive sell-off of U.S. Treasury bonds? Why would anyone want to see the credit rating of the United States downgraded?

 

I'll be straight-up about it: Republican politicians (those with the most POWER and INFLUENCE) do not care about working Americans.

This should be obvious considering all they have done or refused to do, especially when it comes to labor laws and real tax breaks.

Don't be fooled folks; we'll ALL be better off in the shorter and longer run... if we stop voting for Republicans for a few years.

 

Good news! They house passed a bill to keep funding going. Harry Reid wants to block it though. Call your democrat senators up and say "you stole 16% of my income and are giving me back a terrible retirement plan that keeps me in poverty and a health plan the best doctors won't take, you better at least pay out that. ".

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Every tax break the middle class has got to keep was started by republicans. Try again.

Labor laws? Why do you want to make American labor less attractive? Do you realize we compete with other nations and your ideas have consequences? Usually the complete opposite of whatever the left is intending?

 

Perhaps I missed something, or you did.

Even so, when have the Republicans (Tea Party version) done more for working people than they have for 'corporations'?

Yes, those. (Conservatives are obsessively ANTI-UNION. It's crazy/sinister.)

Why do you want to turn most workers into the working-poor?

Of course I do. Even so, handing every damned advantage to the top few percent in our society is certainly not helping; and THAT is what Republicans always do... they take care of the WEALTHIEST (job creators and all that BS).

And what the Conservative greed-mongers are imposing upon the working people of this nation do not? (Come on, be reasonable.)

Folks... please don't buy the Conservative BS anymore. They are out to help only the corporations; ruin this society; take their money elsewhere and leave our asses here in abject poverty making slave wages.

Don't believe their crap!! The Republicans have shown their true faces with this cliff-hanger BS they keep pulling year after year after year.

THEY ARE FULL OF IT.

Democrats aren't perfect (by any means), but Republicans are just terrible... and the American people can see that VERY clearly at this point.

 

You must be kidding. Republicans under George W. Bush gave working folks $4 prescriptions and TWO tax rebate checks. What exactly have Democrats under Barack Obama given working folks?