Supreme Court to take up affirmative action case

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  1. clarabel12

    clarabel12 New Member

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    Regarding a plan in Michigan that voters approved. It said colleges cannot anymore use race as a preference for admission.

    Of course, the poverty pimp crowd doesn't want to see any end to affirmative action.

    The will of the voters is up for scrutiny again.

    Affirmative action is the epitome of discrimination. Against more qualified whites because they are white.

    Clarabel
     
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    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And legacy admission of the children of graduates who attended when these colleges would NOT accept minorities or women AT ALL is NOT "discrimination" against more qualified women and minorities NOW?

    Yeah, the poor put-upon whites' selective perception of "what is fair" is always a source of amazement and amusement, both of what they notice and what they completely ignore in their fantasy of a American "meritocracy".
     
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    The concept of "legacy" admission doesn't have anything to do with affirmative action. It's the way of the world. But, that can be addressed in some other way. To say someone should be admitted over another just because of race is silly. No one has control over their race for heaven's sake. To admit a lesser qualified applicant because of race makes no sense. I have no problem with anyone of any race that is equally qualified. Affirmative action entry does not guarantee graduation, and that has become obvious. It has been going on since the late 60's, early 70's. We've been at it long enough. Time to stand on our own merits - everyone.

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    It seems some people here do not understand what affirmative action is. And I daresay Scalia doesn't either. Affirmative Action is this: When two candidates compete for a position, whether it be employment or school or whatever, and those two candidates have equal qualifications, then affirmative action says the person chosen should be from an under-represented group. That is it. Now I suppose the other option would be to simply flip a coin -- 50-50. But Affirmative Action does not violate the 14th amendment, especially since in a few decades, Caucasians might be the ones utilizing affirmative action since they will be in the minority.
     
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    I find affirmative action less offensive than what goes on with athletes in colleges. Actually I don't find AA offensive at all but what goes on with athletes a travesty offensive to the foundations of higher education.
     
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    The case hasn't been decided yet. The real and only issue to be decided by the supreme court is whether or not voters can use a referendum to decide on matters relating to affirmative action in their state. The people of Michigan voted overwhelmingly in favor of using the referendum (a majority of voters). The Obama supreme court has already ruled against Texas in that regard. The supreme court will of course, rule against the will of the people of Michigan also.

    Why bother to vote on anything? If the Obama court doesn't like what the people vote for, it will strike it down. Obama knows what is best for the people.

    Why bother to serve on a jury in a criminal case? If a state appellate court doesn't agree with a jury which found a criminal guilty, it will strike it down.
     
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    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So the system of legacy admissions (and many other succession advantages) of lesser qualified candidates that perpetuates the past racial discrimination against minorities is "different", according to YOU, a white person! :lol:

    We were at the system of admitting white males over ALL others for over 200 years, and the advantages for whites from those racial policies are gifts that keep on giving TO whites, but anything to counter-balance that racially-based advantage has now been going on "long enough", according to YOU.

    Sweet. Nothing like seeing pure, unadulterated, unabashed "entitlement attitudes" in action!
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    It's funny that some people only whine about blacks who go to college but never say anything about all of the foreigners who take up most of the seats and drive up costs.
     
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    Are legacy admissions only limited to white males? If say a black woman was an alumni of a Michigan University, her kids would not be entitled to a legacy admission?

    A collage deciding who gets an education, and who doesn't, based on skin color is racist and discriminatory. It does not matter if the choice is in favor of whites, blacks, Hispanics, Asians or Martians.
     

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