If a person lives in USA and cannot get a State ID, Federal ID, or a Drivers License; I say screw 'em - they don't deserve to pull the lever.
Still bullsh*t. I know Colorado law and have an FFL friend there. For a private sale before 2013, the seller needs to see an ID and have the reasonable expectation that the person they are selling to could pass a background check. Since 2013 they had to actually do a background check. Nice try. I don't know who you plan to convince that you bought a gun in 2012 with no ID; but you aren't fooling me. And if you did it you committed a crime and should be prosecuted by law enforcement. I recommend you remove your post if you are confessing to a felony gun crime.
You don't know squat. Before July 2013 no ID was required, no background check was required for private sales. That's why the made the law! The exception was at gun shows. Keep your New York nonsense in your own state. You people have ruined your own state, don't ruin mine. We already have enough people trying to do that.
Where I vote you walk in and state your name and the clerk looks it up in the book and then you sign your name. If someone tried to do that 100 times it wouldn't work because some of the other people would have already voted and signed their names. Since so many people don't vote anyway what difference does it matter if someone does vote more than once? Unless it's a local office it doesn't affect the outcome of the election. Not one Democrat's vote in the Red States counted in the past two Presidential elections. So someone could have voted 1,000 times for Obama in Texas and it wouldn't have made any difference whatsoever. That's why it's silly for the racist Repubs to try to restrict voting rights. But they are racists so that explains it.
Wow. Just wow. Al Franken was elected by 312 votes. He became a US Senator on that vote, which affected the whole country. I guess if it's a liberal who benefits it doesn't matter...until it's not a liberal.
Minnesota seems to be on top of prosecuting illegal voters without going Gestapo. They did reject a voter ID bill. "Whether or not that is true, depends on what you include in a definition of “voter fraud.” In Minnesota, the Court Information Office said they’ve convicted 156 people of being a felon and voting. That is illegal. But is that really voter fraud? “The definition of voter fraud is illegal voting,” Davis said. Those 156 convictions are out of nearly 3 million votes cast in a typical presidential election. According to the state, there were 73 cases still pending." http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2012/08/14/good-question-is-minnesota-1-for-voter-fraud/
That isn't fraud and it isn't a crime if a person does not change their name on their driver's license within that time frame. Second, the point here is that you must go to the DMV in person for the name change. That would mean taking off work and hopefully you have a boss that will not fire you for taking off work. Keep in mind, that this is a right to work state and the boss can fire you for whatever reason they see fit, even if missing work is legitimate and is approved by the boss. Now, here is another question for you. What happens if a woman asks her boss to take off work for some personal business and the boss says no. And that boss also says if you do take off work for whatever reason, you are fired. Who is at fault here?
Snappo, You really need to look at what constitutes proof of id in each state. The other thing you need to look at is how long will it take to get those documents. And the third thing you need to look at is that you have to go to a DMV to do this. That can take several hours at the most and an hour at the least. States like Texas and U.S. government offices are downsizing the number of offices it has since that is the biggest and cheapest way to cut costs. This would mean that a working poor person would have to take off. The chances that they will be paid for that time off will depend on who they owrk for. But if that person has to take time off and is not paid for that time off, that can weigh into the decision to do it promptly or to wait. And if every dollar counts to the working poor who may not have the time and the money to take off work to do this, most choose to wait until it is absolutely necessary.
Next thing you know, they'll be discriminating against your dead voters or the people that vote 5 or 6 times. How dare they!
I think it is going to affect women who work at minimum pay jobs who are either divorced and raising their kids alone or who live in multi generational situations in order to make ends meet. Whether their political leanings are conservative or liberal does not really matter IMO.
You are entitled to imagine hat ever you like. But lib women are entitled to only one vote jut like everyone else. Being a female does not entitle them to special treatment.
Let's see one of those, who is a legal voter, and has NO ID, and in incapable of obtaining one, or we'll just assume that the Left is, once again, making up Imaginary Victims in their desperate attempt to prevent any action against their Voter Fraud Demographic, such as multiple voters, illegal aliens, and the dead... - - - Updated - - - Colorado is one state. And IDs are usually only required for HANDGUNS, in most.
I bet you and Hillary have a wonderful evening when y'all get together. "What difference does it make"? You actually post that kind of crap on a political fora? And you vote? Chihuahua! What about 1000 people voting 1000 times? A million votes would have made a big difference. Except for 87 votes, almost of a certainty, illegally cast, Lyndon Baines Johnson would most likely have never been President. From Wikipedia; In the 1948 elections, Johnson again ran for the Senate and won. This election was highly controversial: in a three-way Democratic Party primary Johnson faced a well-known former governor, Coke Stevenson, and a third candidate. Johnson drew crowds to fairgrounds with his rented helicopter dubbed "The Johnson City Windmill". He raised money to flood the state with campaign circulars and won over conservatives by voting for the Taft-Hartley act (curbing union power) as well as by criticizing unions. Stevenson came in first but lacked a majority, so a runoff was held. Johnson campaigned even harder this time around, while Stevenson's efforts were surprisingly poor. The runoff count took a week. The Democratic State Central Committee (not the State of Texas, because the matter was a party primary) handled the count, and it finally announced that Johnson had won by 87 votes. By a majority of one member (292 the committee voted to certify Johnson's nomination, with the last vote cast on Johnson's behalf by Temple, Texas, publisher Frank W. Mayborn, who rushed back to Texas from a business trip in Nashville, Tennessee. There were many allegations of fraud on both sides. Thus one writer alleges that Johnson's campaign manager, future Texas governor John B. Connally, was connected with 202 ballots in Precinct 13 in Jim Wells County that had curiously been cast in alphabetical order and just at the close of polling. Some of these voters swore that they had not voted that day.[22] Robert Caro argued in his 1989 book that Johnson had stolen the election in Jim Wells County and other counties in South Texas, as well as rigging 10,000 ballots in Bexar County alone.[23] An election judge, Luis Salas, said in 1977, that he had certified 202 fraudulent ballots for Johnson.[24] The state Democratic convention upheld Johnson. Stevenson went to court, butwith timely help from his friend Abe FortasJohnson prevailed. Johnson was elected senator in November and went to Washington tagged with the ironic label "Landslide Lyndon," which he often used deprecatingly to refer to himself. All, of course cast in a primary held in for all practical purposes, a one party state, Texas. My suggestion is for you to tell Old LBJ that 1000 votes would not matter. He would laugh your ass out of the White House. The old racist bull crap once again brought out by the 'what difference' crowd. What unmitigated horse hockey!
Surely you see that it is all faux rage anyway. MOST of the "poor disenfranchised voters" are on welfare. Well, guess what? You gotta have ID to collect welfare. I've no idea why people en masse have to be so dishonest. NO ONE is disenfranchised by requiring ID to vote, absolutely NO ONE.
How many women do you figure there are in Texas who work the ENTIRE day EVERY day for a boss who won't let them go to the DMV to change the name on their ID? Oh by the way, Texas state law makes it illegal for employers not to allow lunch breaks. Have you never set at the DMV on your lunch hour? Oh , also by the way, federal tax laws require that a person's I9 be current and up to date, so IF a person is working and they change their name, then by law they are supposed to update that information with their employer anyway, and how does a person do that? Oh that's right, they MUST show ID. - - - Updated - - - To be fair, I'm 42 and I've NEVER shown ID to vote either. but I live in rural Arkansas and our polling place has like 200 registered voters tops and 99% of the time it's a relative who is working there, so everyone knows everyone. BUT if I suddenly have to show my ID to vote, I'm not going to cry about it, big deal gotta show my ID to buy a beer to when I CLEARLY am over 21.
How about instead of off topic drivel, you attempt to address the concerns of the OP? While I think expecting an up to date ID is reasonable, the whole deal of requiring a copy of the documents that initiated the name change in such a fashion is crazy and an attempt to disenfranchise low income voters, who typically vote democratic.
The way I read it, and I admit I may be wrong here, is that the documentation only has to be presented when the name on the ID shown doesn't match the name on the voter registration.
To be completely fair and reasonable here, what are the odds that a woman with the same first name and similar physical attributes to what is listed on an ID would show up and try to commit voter fraud ? I mean come on
I'm not sure what you mean. The picture ID is to prevent phony voters from voting in the place of someone who didn't show up. The voter roll only has a name not a description of the voter. A picture ID matches a face to a name and address of the voter and makes cheating more difficult.
