Far Left Murder Two In Greece.

The rapper was killed by a nut, this shooting was planned. Big difference! It probably has nothing to do with the left, and everything to do with fomenting trouble between the left and right in Greece in order to start a civil war. If it's not Albanians, who have their own expansionist ambitions, then it's the MIT. Strange it would happen when Lavrov is having talks in Greece.

 

Many of their beliefs were based on racist pseudo-science.

 

No.

Of course I don't agree. It would fly in the face of the reality of what has been going on.

 

Not so. And the OP article tells you are wrong, the same one claiming this is a lefty.



The death of Pavlos Fyssas on September 17 sparked outrage across Greece, with riots breaking out in six cities in the immediate aftermath of the killing.

The 34-year-old rapper, who went by the stage name Killah P, was stabbed twice outside a cafe in the Keratsini area west of Athens by a man who identified himself as a Golden Dawn supporter.

 

Leftists need an "Israel" to escape to. Where has socialism created a Utopia?? Ah, Africa! The crown jewel of socialism.

 

Correct.

And they made an arrest with his alleged killer.

How many arrests have they made so far, with this?

Absurd. They have a few of their politicians sitting in cells for reasons unknown, while actual killers are driving free around Greece. This only a few weeks after thousands of savages and commies went on the rampage, terrorising Athens centre. Meantime what was the leader(ho ho ho) busy doing? Going to NYC to meet the World Jewish Congress....

Had this been a couple of ethnics or Romany shot down in cold blood, the BBC would do a ten part series.

The murdering behaviour of the commies and their eternal ethnic partner is likely to show more Greeks the true side of these thugs and push them more toward GD.

 

No proof that they were actually members of the party - they were just standing near the office. The terrorists targeted anyone at random they 'believed' were a member of the Nazi party, so they could just as well have been innocent bystanders

 

Even if they were party members, so what?

Some world when we have people championing murder.

Ironically the self same sort that want to make out they care about life.

 

Sad, feel sorry for Greece going through this.

Let's all remember that these folks were people too, let's not our political affiliations get in the way of basic humanity.

 

Too late.

I take it you did not read the previous threads that alluded to murder by shooting?

 

No. People celebrating death I suppose? Charming..

 

Why shouldn't Samaras be meeting the World Jewish Congress, after all Israel and Greece have been having war games together to protect their oil and gas interests from their major antagonizer: Turkey.

I'm glad though Lavrov is in Greece because with what's going on with Albania and Turkey's territorial ambitions, Greece will need as many powerful friends as it can get.

 

No evidence this is a Nazis party.

 

Worse. We had people on the other thread calling for shootings just a couple of weeks before this happened. . Coincidence? Possibly. But I am sure detectives would be interested nevertheless.

 

It's not a matter of should or shouldn't.

He clearly got his orders from them, since it was only a day or so after that they swooped, Stasi style, on their leaders. Indeed it would not surprise me if the killers of these men were.... "not Greeks".

 

I was joking and only because it was Jack's post. I don't believe in killing anyone in cold blood.

 

The killers took a lot of precautions to cover up their DNA, which is making the government wonder if they have a record and might be Greek. Of course the possibility exists that they might have been Albanians since so many have spent time in Greek jails. One thing is for sure, if they had any connection to Turkey, the Greek government would never disclose it to the media or to the people. One hundred and sixty forest fires broke out on exactly the same day in August when the trade winds started to blow, and yet no mention was made of Turkish sabotage although everyone knew it was.

I guess Greece feels Turkey is trying to provoke it into making some kind of response so it could go to war, and Greece refuses to fall into the trap.

 

I blame those who incited this, I blame Samaras and the Greek Gov, every political office is entitled to armed police protection, and due to the hype and Samaras removing it, two young men are dead.


Sounds like the GD need to stop being so restrained.

They tried that + look where it got them.

The police have lost control, the Gov are corrupt...

 

This thread .....

To explain how things work in Europe : economic views mean nothing to us only ideas do and by those ideas XA is a nazi party far right party , do i have to post photos with swastikas again ?
To explain the current situation in Greece: there are two sides the pro-bail out and the anti-bail out , both XA and Syzriza are in the second group while the first group although the smallest makes the government.

Very interesting that the shootings happen the same day a high ex parliament member from PASOK was arrested for keeping intelligence documents in his house , those documents are about Vodafone's surveillance and the assassination attempt against ex-ND Pri Minister K. Karamanlis .
Very interesting that those shootings happen after several reports that the junior member of the government (PASOK) is about to dissolve (receiving 2,5% in the polls ) and the ruling party are having losses to the left and the right ( their PMs from rural areas are in revolt over a law that will tax farmland ) .

For those still not getting it : the pro-bail out side (the centrists) are trying to save their skin , nor the left ( communists ) neither the right (nazis) win anything from this .

 

It's an interesting post, but I am not sure I get who you think was behind this....

 

I thought that it was clear ... anyway consider this : the government (ND and PASOK) make XA illegal , XA loses about half their voters in the polls and those voters go to SYRIZA or other minor parties ( ANEL or even KKE) , remember there are two sides : pro-bailout and anti-bailout . Now the regime will try to incriminate SYRIZA just in case they can gain some of their supporters ( SYRIZA is harboring several of ex-PASOK members including the unionists) .

When leftists commit murders they always "sign them" and give detail information about their procedure , so far nobody has claimed responsibility .

Right now Greece needs a new bailout and a haircut , if government goes down there can be neither .

 

If Greece get a new bailout, it will just owe more money to the company store,won't it, like this Ernie Ford song says:
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...&mid=B7F34B62128B3126062CB7F34B62128B3126062C
Wouldn't Greece be better off if it just defaulted on the banksters international loans?

 

Far , far better .
Default and leave Eurozone .

by the way our debt is already non sustainable but as usual EU is kicking the can down the road.

 

A few responses here. Golden Dawn followers will never switch to Syriza since Golden Dawn are 'nationalists', and Syriza holds opposing view points. As far as the bail out is concerned, Germany is holding Greece and other Mediterranean nations hostage. As one German politician said, Merkel and the IMF have destroyed Greece. They used Greece as a Guinea pig, and the policy failed. Merkel has accomplished what Hitler was not able to do. Germany has complete control now over Europe.

If Greece could leave the Eurozone and adjust its economy the way Iceland did, it would have been out of this mess a long time ago...but no! The orders are in. If Greece and any other country leaves the Eurozone they will not be able to rejoin. So Greece continues to suffer. So why is Germany doing this? Could it be the large gas and oil deposits in Greek territorial waters, as well as being a transit point for the Israeli and Cypriot oil and gas? Does Germany want to take control of this energy as a pay back? Anyway I'm only guessing here, so don't pay me much heed.

As for the killings, it was an inside job. More than likely someone has hacked into the computers of the police department because they knew exactly the time the police would not be there, and that the victims would be unarmed. The precautions and professionalism were not the work of amateurs. I suspect the motive was to cause anarchy and friction between the 'liberals' and 'nationalists', so it might have been the MIT: Turkish Intelligence, or Albania under Erdogan's auspices. Again I'm guessing, but it's an educated one.

 

Have the usually blinding Greek police arrested anyone yet?