Who does the GOP represent?

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How does the GOP cater to>

Poll closed Oct 15, 2013.
  1. The GOP CATERS exclusively, to the richest of the rich.

    90.9%
  2. The GOP caters to the average low income person.

    9.1%
  1. ManifestDestiny

    ManifestDestiny Well-Known Member

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    This shows exactly how intolerant conservatives are when it comes to poor people. My signature explains it all.
     
  2. RtWngaFraud

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    It's ALWAYS the poor people's 'fault' when it comes to deficits/debt, isn't it? NEVER the ultra rich GOP base's fault, FOR ANYTHING. Amazing how that always works.
     
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    Luckily for the most part this childish ideology only affects racist southern states.
     
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    Leftists have been fulminating against rich racists since the 1930s, always insisting their favorite bogeymen are found only among Republicans. After so many years and so much repetition, leftists believe this without question - and without verification. But here's an analysis that relates the Presidential party preferences of US states to their average income as reported by the Census Bureau. It turns out that Red states are most likely to be low income and Blue states are most likely to be high income.

    But what about all those evil billionaires who leftists know are the source of racism (and Republicanism)? Here's a study taking a deep close look at the social correlates of racism. The most powerful factor turns out to be education, not income. The more education, the less racism. But education is correlated with income. Better educated people tend to have higher incomes. So racial liberality is more likely found among educated affluent people than any other sector of society.

    The leftist stereotype (dare one say the leftist prejudice?) turns out to be groundless. It's higher income people who are racial liberals; prejudice is more common in the uneducated working class. Even without the evidence of research, personal observation will tell any dispassionate observer the same.
     
  5. Spiritus Libertatis

    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    If anyone answers anything other than the first option you would probably have voted for Hitler.
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree with the blue part. It's a shame that you use such inflammatory language.
     
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    teeko New Member Past Donor

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    It this current day I believe they are all representing themselves....... They have all lost sight of the people they are suppose to be representing. they are all pocketing money at the expense of hard working people....
     
  8. Pollycy

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    I'm old, Pardy. I've seen various intensities of acrimony in the country all my long life, but never quite like it is today. You are right; whenever I think about what this country has turned into, I do become inflamed. My constant source of rage is the unending unfairness of it all, and I marvel that so many people, Left and Right, can't see it.

    The U. S. Tax Code is the most consistently unfair thing I've ever seen in my life! Why should anybody be given "tax breaks" of any kind for any reason? If our society, and our Constitution is based on a philosophy of equality, then why should anybody get special exemptions from having to pay their fair share of taxes? But, in a country where unfairness is accepted and practiced routinely, we see things like tax "shelters", tax loopholes, tax "exceptions", and, reverse-discrimination (a.k.a., "affirmative action"), Federal Government contract 100% set-asides for minority-owned small businesses, etc., etc.

    If anything destroys us, Pardy, it will be unfairness, and the resulting rage that makes us seethe in a growing hatred toward each other. Rodney King asked, "Can't we all just get along?", to which I would add, "Can't we all just be treated equally and fairly?" :flagus:
     
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    The ultra rich have already destroyed us all... the fish dying on the beach, just isn't completely dead yet. It's still trying to suck air, in futility. The only thing fair about that, is that they'll go down with us all.
     
  10. Pollycy

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    Well, I'm pleased to be able to agree with you about something. You know, I'll bet that if a lot of us on the Left and on the Right really could get together and discuss what's ruining this country, and wrecking our lives, we might just find that we have a hell of a lot more in common with each other than we often think we do! One thing is for damned sure: both of us deserve to have much, much better presidents than either Idiot Bush, or Idiot Obama -- and we'd better find one pretty damn quick or what you've predicted about the fish dying on the beach will become a reality right before our eyes in the next ten years!
     
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    Until you can get big money out of controlling everything in sight, that's not going to happen. The fish are already dying bro.
     
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    Your dream is dependent on money, and therefore, only a dream. The big bucks determine everything for everybody, and since you advocate for the wealthy, I don't see how your dream can ever become reality.
     
  13. Pollycy

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    No, Fraud, my dream is not dependent on money. I already have a pretty good amount of money, but my dream is far from fulfilled. I want to live in a United States that is once again rooted in the Constitution, where citizens are free from an intrusive, invasive government. I want everyone to be treated absolutely equally, without any favoritism or special advantages given for any reason. But I have never gotten what I completely wanted in the political makeup in this country. The closest we came was during the Reagan years, and those were wonderful years, indeed. I'll be honest enough to admit that the Clinton years were pretty damn good, too, but largely for different reasons.

    One thing is for sure -- if we could have back-to-back presidents like Reagan and Clinton, instead of two blithering idiots like "W" Bush and Obama, we'd be a hell of a lot better off! Anyway, I was happy to think we agreed on something, but I guess I was wrong after all, or at least you seem to think so. At the rate things are going, I'm sure we'll have ample opportunity to disagree on a LOT of things going forward if the next election is as horrible as I think it's going to be....
     
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    Money dictates all, Sir so, I'm confident that it'll all be horrible. Thanks for admitting that you have a "pretty good amount of money" though. That's commendable.
     
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    (Chuckle...) Well, remember, I said, "pretty good amount", but far from WEALTH. You can dislike me for working hard for decades, being careful, and saving money, and I'll be guilty-as-charged, if you like. But don't hate me because I'm rich. If I were really, really rich, I'd work effectively to help this country produce more leaders like Reagan and Bill Clinton, and never again any more clowns like "W" Bush and Obama....

    More to your point, though... money heavily influences politics -- but doesn't always win the day. Example: here in Colorado, the big Teachers' Unions, Michael Bloomberg, and Bill and Melinda Gates dumped millions and millions of dollars into an effort to shove a $1 Billion Dollar tax increase down our throats the enrich the "Education Industry" (i.e., even more money for the hyperlibs that run public "education"). By contrast, the Conservative opposition had almost no funding at all to speak of.

    The result this morning: in a state that has a total of only 5.2 million people this proposed income-tax engorgement went down in flames by a 2-1 margin. So, just because the hyperliberal Left wants to propagandize the population endlessly for its pet projects, it doesn't mean that it is always successful....
     
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    I don't hate you Sir. I hate the inherently corrupt system and the folks that command it. Money IS everything in politics. That's just the way it it, and BIG money controls EVERYTHING. It's 'built in' to crapitalism.

    The influence of big money is ALWAYS successful. Look at the GMO thing in Washington this past election. The bulk of the populous thought it was a good idea. BIG MONEY (Monsanto, Dupont, to name a couple), poured money in and defeated it. How is that NOT the success of big money over the will of the people? It's ALL like that, Sir. Our whole system is polluted and corrupted by it, and it's choking everything, and the GOP is at the forefront of it. The other side isn't much better either but, no mistake about who the ringleaders are, IMO.
     
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    I agree with you 100% on the whole stinking GMO issue, and you bet, I put the blame for that squarely on Monsanto, DuPont, et al. Believe me when I tell you, a lot of us on the Right don't want to eat that Franken-food crap, either, and I certainly avoid it every chance I can! There's a part of me that has very deep, old Left-wing roots -- hell, I won't even drink public tap water. I've had a Multi-Pure Water Filter unit since 1979 because I refuse to drink water with all those ****ing "city water-treatment" chemcials in it. In short, if it's a good idea, and it makes sense, I don't care if it originates from the Left or the Right! A place where we would probably disagree, however, is on Socialism. I think it's a really bad idea!

    My usual rant about the BIG rich concerns the U. S. Tax Code. You and I have to pay, pay, and pay some more, but, if we were BIG rich, we'd have our tax attorneys and tax accountants take advantage of all the numerous tax shelters, tax loopholes, tax writeoffs, exclusions, exemptions, etc., etc. The net-net of this is that the BIG rich often pay little or nothing in taxation! No American President has even tried to really do anything about this galling taxation injustice, and even my hero, Ronald Reagan, while cutting taxes, also raised them, but the loopholes, writeoffs, and exemptions continued. Obama? He hasn't even TRIED to do anything about the stinking U. S. Tax Code, and you can bet the East Coast-led old-money "Limousine Liberals", like John Kerry, would never let him, even if he tried it (which he obviously will not)....

    Where does it leave us, Left and Right? We're stuck in a slow downward spiral toward a dystopian America, where no one's future is bright and promising. The rich get richer (and pay virtually nothing in taxes), and the poor get poorer, but are willing to go on voting for whoever hands out the subsistence-level welfare. Most of them work little or not at all, so, practically speaking, they don't pay taxes, either.

    This is NOT the country I grew up in, and I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK, even if it wasn't "perfect"....
     
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    The GOP to me always represented opportunity and freedom! :banana:

    In highly liberal areas like SF, where I used to live they are much more restrictive on how someone lives. You can't own goldfish, no soda machines ect...

    The idea that Republicans represent the rich is a bunch of banana splat!! :deadhorse:

    You start taxing and hurting business's, lets see how well off the poor do!:rant:
     
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    Biggest Donor to Obama in 2008- Goldman Sachs
    Biggest Donor to Romney in 2012- Goldman Sachs

    And since Goldman Sachs paid Hillary Clinton 400,000 grand for two speeches recently I'm going to take a wild guess:
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/20...9s_big_paydays_from_goldman_sachs_319105.html
    Probably the Biggest donor to Hillary Clinton in 2016-Goldman Sachs

    But keep pretending there's a difference, it's amusing.
     
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    ROFL! I'd say the right is the ones who maintain that there is some difference in the creeps they run for office. THERE ISN'T, and that's the point.
     
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    And I'm pointing out that there's no difference between the creeps the right and left put into power.
     
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    That's a fair point. I thought you advocated for the right being a better choice. My mistake.
     
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    It's no big deal, it happens. I think there's always common ground that can be reached between two people on the opposite sides of any argument. I'm fully aware of the dangers of money buying power, and how it's a constant threat to our democratic process.
     
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    Party of the rich? Are you aware Republicans are poorer then Democrats? What about the fact that the Democrats in Congress are far wealthier then the Republicans?

    The Democrats are at least equally as elitest as the GOP, you have to be able to see that.
     
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    So congress and beurocrats should force you to donate to who they want instead?

    That's called socialism and it's tyranny.
     

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