This Country May Have Become the First in the World to Ban Islam

Religion is protected by the first amendment, not violence in the name of Allah. Do you agree with that?

 

islam is a religion and protected by the first amendment.

 

And in the name of Yahweh. Take all the Aryan Nations and Christian Identity people to Gitmo now.

 

They have a right to their religion, not their violent behavior. When they break the law they will be punished just like anyone else, including muslims.

 

Christians tried to do that to the wiccans religion here too, would not let wiccans have a tombstone for their falling soldiers

eventually they had to admit that legally it was also a religion

 

Religion, yes. Murder and violence in the name of Allah is not protected.

 

the constitution doesn't give any religion a right violence or the right to start a religious war

 

never said it was. I'm correcting the OP's painful ignorance of religion, the first amendment, and what the supremacy clause actually does.

 

Total bull (*)(*)(*)(*). First freaking amendment. Back to grade school for you.

Every time you say it it is still wrong like ham and cheese on a motzah

That is to say that we are not under Sharia or any other other superstitious rule. Says nothing at all about Islam. The defect is in your language skills, not ours. You're making a fool out of yourself.

Now go read the Treaty of Tripoli and do a hundred mea culpas.

 

Do you honestly believe that a religion had the capability to hold a knife or gun?

Are you thinking of Ishmael? Muslims consider him to be the father of the Arab people.

 

Many of the founding fathers studied the Koran because they liked the concept of representative government AKA the Majlis.

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Abraham also had six sons with his Arab wife Keturah.

 

They advocate RaHoWa, a criminal conspiracy and, by the standards that the Muslim basher here advocate applying to Muslims, are enemies of civilization.

 

You have a succinct way of smacking people with the obvious. Bravo.

 

I would like to see the source on that................from someplace other than the Obama National Library

 

Try the Library of Congress or the writings of Thomas Jefferson.

 

no they did not. Rule 10 challenge.

 

I am not here to beat you over the head.. If you are interested in the subject, do your own research.

The concept of government by consensus is certainly not new.. It was tribal.. I am NOT going to jump thru hoops to prove a point to you.. Either study the subject for yourself.. seriously.. or go fly a kite. I am tired of juveniles and gotcha tactics.

Most often people like yourself don't even read the links provided.

 

Rule 10 ma'am. if you claim something is fact, and are challenged on it, you are required to provide a link. You may of course withdraw your "fact" instead

and PS no one, and I mean NO ONE on this board backs their claims up with factual links more than I. So your opinion that I don't care about facts is invalid and laughable.

 

Rule 10 ma'am

.,....................If a poster continually asserts something as a specific historical fact, they must be prepared to substantiate it as fact if challenged to do so by another poster, through a link that is credible in the judgment of moderators or administrators. .................................

I did not see anywhere in the TOS where you permitted to ignore the rules simply b/c you felt like it.

 

I have posted link after link for the likes of you.. I find that you are lazy and don't read the links.. so if you want to know about Thomas Jefferson.. read his life story.. Its about 400 pages. I have read it twice.

 

Ma'am, I have a Master's Degree in History, specializig in US History, I assure you that you have NOT read more historical documents or history books than I.

However, that being said, Rule 10 does not allow you to ignore a request a link to prove your "fact" simply because at some vague point in the past you allegedly posted a link that got ignored. Earlier today I had a poster who had been arguing with me for two days about a fact admit to me that he was arguing without ever once looking at the facts in the link I provided two days ago. .I've been in other threads since then and have still posted FACTS to support to my claims.

So, I ask again, please post a link to any document that claims one of the founding fathers STUDIED the Koran for a better appreciation of their government. That never happened.

 

no. You try and support your statement of facts with...........say............facts...source it

 

The Jefferson Qur'an

Alexandra Méav Jerome
The College of William and Mary

On December 9th, 1805, Thomas Jefferson hosted the United States' first iftar at the White House. It was an unintentional event, one that occurred as a result of Jefferson's scheduled meeting with an invited envoy from the Tunisian government. It was the end of the first Barbary War, and Jefferson was anxious to establish better diplomatic relations with the North African states while ensuring the security of American interests in the Mediterranean. Upon being informed of the envoy's fasting to observe the Islamic month of Ramadan, Jefferson had the mealtime at the White House changed from 3:30 in the afternoon to "precisely at sunset" in an effort to accommodate his guest. This gesture on behalf of the president was not simply a diplomatic one, but one that demonstrated Jefferson's familiarity and comfort with Islam, a faith that interested him since his time as a student at the College of William & Mary. Indeed, Jefferson's interest in the Qur'an and his own study of Arabic led to his active promotion and eventual creation of an Oriental Languages department at his alma mater. As a scholar and a diplomat, Jefferson was keenly aware and interested in the world outside of America and the importance of cultural and intellectual capital to the success of the United States. In studying his Qur'an and the documents that he produced as a part of his nation-building efforts, we see just how Jefferson deployed his knowledge and perhaps how influential Islam was to of one of the nation's founding fathers.

http://www.oxfordislamicstudies.com/Public/focus/essay1009_jefferson.html

 

Take it to the mods. I am NOT going to provide 800 pages of information for you here.

If you have an interest, do the history,

 

Certainly that proves HALF the claim, it doesn't however say anything about representative government, which was the other half of the claim.

In point of fact, Majilis doesn't even refer to being a representative form of government. It's essentially an arabic term for "council" and nothing more, it certainly has nothing to do specifically with representative government in fact the Country of Oman has the Majilias of Oman and they are an absolute monarchy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majlis

so , that's a nice try but Margot's claim that Jefferson studied Islam to learn more about representative government is FALSE.