WH Admits Obamacare Plans May Be ‘Unaffordable’

Unaffordable AND (obviously) unmanageable. The only things keeping this POS from complete "crash & burn" are lies, cover-ups...better known as "delays" and the sh*t pile of tax dollars being spent on propaganda. The bloom is off the rose. The only thing left is to watch the bush go down in flames.

 

I used to be opposed to ObamaCare.......but now that my premiums and deductible have both gone up......and I've seen the 'pajama boy' ad.......I feel all warm and fuzzy about our health insurance.

 

They call it a "Mandate".

Yet every Friend and Ally of the Left; Labor unions, Congressional Staffers, NGOs, Big Business Corp Cronies.... All of them have been granted exemptions to the "Mandate"

Seems to me it would be more appropriate to call it a "Politically Targeted Capricious Punishment".

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As though the cheap "catastrophic" Obamacare plans aren't "junk". I have one of these cheap "junk" non-ACA plans, yet it is better for me in every useful way than the "equivalent" ACA plans and is less expensive. The out-of-pocket limit on my plan is $4,000. The equivalent ACA plan is both more expensive and has an out-of-pocket limit that is over 50% higher. But my plan is junk? Yeah! Keep telling yourself that.

Of course, if I got an ACA plan, I would get pediatric dental coverage. Of course the fact that I'm not a child, so can't use it should be ignored, because it makes the ACA plan "better".

 

The 'train wreck' has already occurred. The engine is off the tracks and the rest of the train, car by car, is running on inertia. Every car that joins the engine makes the eventual fix ore expensive and more inevitable. The regime seems determined to see it all crash and burn instead of admitting error and starting again...

We could kill the entire mess, then pass a half dozen reforms and fix 90% of the health care mess...

1. provide for pre existing conditions
2.eliminate annual and life long caps
3. limit law suit abuse
4. allow buying across state lines
5. make all health care 100% tax deductible, including the insurance costs
6. let people buy what they want and nothing else is mandated
7. Force insurance carriers to live up to their contracts.

 

Excellent post...........thank you for this breath of fesh air.......getting rid of pre-existing,particularly for those who were responsible and had health coverage prior to being hit with some unforeseen illness, was an easy fix........along with getting rid of the lifetime caps on coverage.

 

Each bullet point is the ox of another gored. Each is another lobby that will burn millions in their filthy rent seeking.

Was that gloomy enough?

 

Items 3 and 4 accomplish little or nothing. Why didn't the Republicans pass ANY of these ideas in the past? Why don't they try to pass them NOW to make things better? ( Because they well know those items would do little or nothing!)
3. Limiting law suits COMPLETELY saves a MAXIMUM of 2% and probably less on health care costs and totally screws people screwed by incompetent doctors.
4. No state is so small there is not a decent pool. Selling across state lines simply lets insurance companies shop for the state that will give the companies the best laws to screw
their customers, just like happened with credit card interest.

Making everything tax deductible could be a nice idea! Why not do it NOW, Republicans???? he ACA isnlt stopping you, and if it lowers costs, it lowers the costs of the ACA too!

The rest of these suggestions simply gives you the ACA!

BTW, the mandate is a CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN idea to make people responsible for themselves. I guess its too bad a Democratic president actually passed the law so now Republicans have to hate it!

 

Well who's in power? Why aren't the democrats applying these reforms if they are as good as you seem to say they are?

Because then the rationale for a massive trillion dollar democrat controlled entitlement edifice would crumble away? Yes. Of course!

 

Half the list were things the Obamacare has already DONE!

Lifetime caps, preexisting conditions, and making insurance companies spend some money on actually paying their policies are in there!


I said ONE is a "nice idea", that is making all health care and premiums tax deductible. In order to finance that, I think Congress should reduce the military budget 50% IMMEDIATELY and DO it! Gee, will Republicans help? I don't think so! Have they even proposed it? NOPE!!

Neither the elimination of redress for damages for screwed over people (so-called "tort reform"), nor giving insurance companies the ability to "state shop" to find some scumbag state like Texas that will let them sell policies without any accountability for their actions would do ANY good, and in fact would be idiotic and give the store away to the crooks!

Since Texans like to give these companies freedom to be ripoff artists, there is nothing I can do about that, but no way would I ever want Texas law (or more pointedly, the lack of any law) to be guidelines for corporate pirates across the country.

Once again, why haven't Republicans passed ANY of these "important reforms", or even TRIED to? Republicans are worthless, good for nothing but screaming their ridiculous and false self-serving-fantasy ideologies from the back seat while the adults do the work!

 

Right. They haven't made any of the "smart" reforms that have thrown our nation into health care chaos the way democrats have.

 

By offering more expensive Obama junk plans?

 

Is your car insurance screwing you? How about your house insurance? Life insurance? Vacation insurance? Do you like your relatively low premiums? The reason why these are so low is because there is always someone willing to provide you with the coverage you want at a price you can afford. Except health insurance, of course. Their lobbyists managed to bamboozle Congress and the state legislatures into giving them monopolies by state. With little competition, they raised the prices at a whim. If California had to compete with Florida and Florida had to compete with Alabama, the prices certainly would be lower.

 

If you can't pay your deductible,the hospital can and will refuse you...


If you can't pay the minimum 10%-50% copay,you will never get out of it because the IRS will collect by conducting a sheriff sale on every thing you own.....

Most people won't be able to afford the deductible let alone the copay....


Better hope you never have use it......

Your life will be all but over any way you look at it...

 

Car insurance, life insurance and house insurance are state based too.


And and like those insurance you incorrectly compare as NOT "state based", I find it odd that I can buy Kaiser in NUMEROUS states, along with Blue Cross and others.

ALL those types of insurance need merely to obtain a state license for the state they want to be in, and conform to the laws of their target state!

The REASON there aren't 50 insurance companies in Wyoming or Montana is that those are hard states to make profit in because the hospitals and doctors have little competition and charge exorbitant prices, and the population is thinly distributed! !

Mixing those people and health care costs with the health care costs of Boston will do NO good, because who in Wyoming is going to travel to Chicago to use those doctors for a cold, or childbirth or a colonoscopy?

The "sell across state lines" is a code word for "stop allowing states to regulate their health care policies" so insurance companies can get out of any accountability for their ripoffs. How many people in Montana are going to be willing or able to file a lawsuit because the insurance company ripped them off in the insurance company's home state of Florida?

Any other ridiculous ideas?

 

Huh? Puhlll-leazzze!!

Utter absurdity and propaganda, the IRS has NOTHING to do or ANY interest with whether or not you can pay your copay to the doctor or hospital!

I think this statement is a NEW LOW as the "goofiest propaganda claim about Obamacare" YET! But I am sure it will be mentioned 1000 times on Fox News panels every day to terrify the sheep!!

 

The House HAS passed many of these ideas but the Dems in the Senate...well, they don't do anything

 

Do you expect a lot of doctor visits or need regular prescriptions?

If you do, you may want a Gold or Platinum plan.= pay out your ass on deductibles and out of pocket expenses

If you don't, you may prefer a Bronze or Silver plan. But keep in mind that if you get in a serious accident or have an unexpected health problem, Bronze and Silver plans will require you to pay more of the costs.=you are scewed


No matter what plan you take you are gonna still pay more than you ever have before