Possibly the Leading Actor of Our Time Dies At 46

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  1. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Stop your cryin'; you're just mad that everyone here sees through your nonsense.

    As for Hoffman I KNOW plenty about him.

    He had all the FREE TIME in the world, OBVIOUSLY, and chose to go on a HEROIN BENDER instead of being wth his kids, as the FACTS CLEARLY SHOW.

    Or were they there with him? Didn't think so.

    Save your hilariously plastic "outrage" for your fellow Celeb Worshipper types; any jackass that had this little respect for his children,and placed so LITTLE VALUE on the TIME he COULD HAVE spent with them, is not worth my concern.

    He did not deserve the children that he had,as his OWN ACTIONS CLEARLY PROVE.
     
  2. Agent_286

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    That is the exact premise of the thread I offered. The profession of a troubled man who chose suicide over becoming the best actor of our time and should rightfully be in plays on Broadway and throughout the world. I loved 'In Cold Blood' best because of the massive research Hoffman had to do to obtain the depth and emotion of his character, just as Daniel Day Lewis did in 'Lincoln' denoting the absolute amount of time researching the character he was about to play. It requires great work, strength of character, and resisting the instinct to give a mediocre performance, thus becoming the great actor Hoffman was even at the early age of 46.

    Being a dedicated performer it is difficult to see how Hoffman would have chosen to leave life even with its problems if it was a suicide. It conflicts with his earlier statements concerning rehab/detoxing and that he only stopped taking drugs when he realized it possibly could mean his death.

    In any event we will now never know to what heights Philip Seymour Hoffman would have gone in his acting career if he had not been dedeviled by his own secret, painful world.
     
  3. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Screw him. He abandoned his CHILDREN to SHOOT DRUGS. He got what HE DESERVED; the CHILDREN DID NOT DESERVEE THIS.

    Your childish attempts to romantisize Hoffman's SELFISHNESS are pathetic.
     
  4. Gatewood

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    They found 70 bags of heroine in his apartment. Perhaps it was more than just personal drug usage. Perhaps he was looking to open up a side line business. Not a good guy after all, it's starting to look like.
     
  5. Agent_286

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    1) No Crying, Not Mad...I'm just being an adult dealing with a specified group of retarded 3rd graders here who think they are debating an issue while actually trying to derail this thread, and you know who you are. The others have given some major good points worthy of answers.

    2) Sorry the rambling, off-topic loathesomeness of statements in #2 thru #5 do not meet the criteria of a response.

    6) Every human will be judged by his actions as the Pearly Gates either open wide for us,...or slam shut!
    .. And until then it is best for all of us to keep our hatred for fellow human beings at bay, by prayer...
     
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    Havin' a bad day, Grok?....smiling....
     
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    The question for adults on this forum is not whether Hoffman "was a good guy or not" but as a celebration of his brief and obviously painful life on Earth, acknowledging his many accomplishments as one of the finest actors of our time. A completely rational debate by rational people would have been nice, but hey, it's freedom of speech even if the replies are written from your neighborhood mental asylum...:smile:
     
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    He died a heroin junkie. All of those accomplishments obviously took a back seat to his addiction. So since he obviously didn't care about those accomplishments, then why should we?
     
  9. JavisBeason

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    his "obviously painful life" was self inflicted... no pity
     
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    Agreed.

    He MIGHT have been ONE of the leading actors of HIS GENERATION.

    That is easier to accept.
     
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    For now. Once enough time passes his body of work will speak more of himself then how he died. I mean, look at Janis Joplin, Sid Vicious, John Belushi, Jim Morrison, Lenny Bruce, Jimi Hendrix, the list goes on.

    These people aren't looked down on for doing heroin, they are celebrated for the work they left behind, and pitied for their drug addictions.
     
  12. JavisBeason

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    none should be heros, or celebrated.


    Hitler spearheaded the development of the autobahn.... a great contribution to society not only in germany, but also in the United States and Canada which developed our own versions called interstates and (whatever canada calls theirs)


    but we don't celebrate Hitler's accomplishments for what he did aat the end of his life.


    also, "greatness" is often exhaggerated in the years after death.... Marylin Monroe seems to be an inspiration to all plus sized girls, and a philosopher to boot, according to facebook. In reality, she was a homewrecking whore who slept with presidents and his family, and baseball players because that was her only 'talent' and then she died of a drug OD on her toilet.....

    some inspiration
     
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    No big deal. Just another Hollyweird drug user. When is Hollywood going to get it thru their thick heads drugs lead to death?
     
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    I'm not saying your wrong, but time puts a rose colored hue on everything.
     
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    a bullet in JFK's head also put a rose colored hue on his short time as POTUS
     
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    I am making history here today on this forum agent 286, I actually agree with you, Hoffman was one of the best actors in my lifetime, and I am a real movie buff. (I once owned a very successful video store). The movie world is at a great loss as is society because of Hoffman's addiction. I have said for years, "the worst thing about being a drug addict is being rich". You will run out of body long before you will run out of money.
     
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    Update:

    Several drug dealers have been arrested in connection with Hoffman's death.
     
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    Well that was...unnecessary. ehat does JFK have to do with this?

    Interesting.
     
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    Does it matter drug dealers were apprehended? Hoffman killed himself.
     
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    Exactly. They would never have been found unless he was famous.
     
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    Why is it that show-biz celebrities cannot figure out that heroin is toxic?
     
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    Possibly because of the stress in their jobs, years after year, struggling to get there, then struggling to stay there and they need something like a baby needs a 'binky' (pacifier) to get thru their day. From all the news on the media concerning Hoffman, everyone loved his talent and loved Hoffman dearly. Thay also proclaimed him as one of the best actors of our time.

    This thread is a celebration of Hoffman's life, his incredible talent, and of Hoffman the person.
     

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