Do you despise public school teachers?

All of the teachers at YCS have experience in a competitive market. YCS markets the fact that none of their teachers are perpetual academics.
Preparation for competition is promoted in private schools. Private schools prepare students to compete. Public schools prepare students to cooperate. Private schools promote voluntary associations. Public schools promote compulsory associations.

Private schools don't have a 'silver bullet' as much as public schools have a lead vest. They are encumbered by the sheer volume of indoctrniation they are madated to promote. Private schools are not encumbered by the necessity to teach students things that render them less competitive.

YCS had a good football season. I don't follow basketball because we don't have anyone in the family playing. YCS also has the on;y academic team in Ohio. YCS Ac-Dec was fith in the nation the year my Sami graduated. My gradson competes in both Ac.-Dec. and football.
He is so cool; he's reallly his own guy. He is a leader. My Antonio is the only guy in the weight room studying between sets. Now that's a man!

 

I expect that they were the lucky ones.
Unfortunately, education is more of a system dedicated towards fulfilling the states contractual obligations rather actually trying to achieve to objective of state education.
So what we've ended up with is education that's more hit and miss set against a backdrop of mediocrity.

Which is a shame really because time and time again we come across some of the brightest people who don't have much of an education and we also the opposite which is a real shame because the country is missing out.

 

Antonio wears his Ac-Dec tee shirt to the weight room. It Reads, "YCS AC-DEC join us now or work for us later".

 

I do have an issue with giving these people tax cuts or vouchers or subsidizing the private schools. Our government provides schools, and if a parent wants a private school, or home schooling, let them pay for it.

 

Not at all, they do a great service for this country

 

The problem I have with public schools is that they are not voluntary.

 

That can certainly be a huge concern, and if it was enforced we wouldn't have drop-outs, or a need for workers getting GEDs. We could create whole classes of people who think the sun revolves around the earth, that 2&2 is 12, and bosco the cow gives chocolate milk. I run into these people at walmart check out counters, who can see on the register that my change (all the math is done for them) is 6.53, but they can't figure out how much in change that represents.

 

So you would support not allowing anybody to receive any public assistance unless they have a high school diploma or a GED then, if education is really that important to you?

 

lol, no where did I remotely suggest that idea. I would support not giving public assistance to someone that has been college educated, trained for a position, and provided that position, and they refuse to take the employment. Are you prepared to offer free upper education to Americans? Training? Apprentiships? Job placements? When you are, I ready to cut public assistance down to unlimited unemployment while requirements are being met or upgraded.

 

I don't mind trash collectors, cops, EMTs, firemen, OR troops. Do you have ANY idea what a marine in Fallujah would cost you on the open market? I don't mind ER docs or nurses, most of which are effectively public employees. Every engineer and assemblyman at Raytheon is effectively a public employee. As a patriotic conservative, your principles + $2.46 will get you a vente black coffee at Starbucks.

 

If you do not support adding such a requirement, then you clearly do not support mandatory school attendance as you do not want to punish anybody who doesn't take advantage of the free to them opportunities provided (or more likely, you don't want the left to lose its system of buying votes from uneducated masses with public funds).

As for free college, works for me as far as public colleges go. I would have done away with government assistance to students at private colleges a long time ago.

 

This I would support along your lines. Attend mandatory educational classes to receive benefits. If you are not working, you are either being educated or trained. That goes for anybody receiving government benefits, from corporate handouts, SS, or welfare. Equality counts.

 

Not sure how you would make a corporation attend a class. I just want people to have the tools for success. After that, I really see no point making 85 year old women with broken hips go to class. If it were up to me, college degrees would be attainable by night and weekend programs offered at public high schools for free. I also much prefer the system like used overseas where one has to essentially qualify for their major department based on standardized testing and the number of slots open for students in certain majors are tied with some sort of need for those majors if one is to attend for free. If we need more RN's, then we have lots of slots for nursing; if we don't need any more history teachers being 10 deep in that major, then you have to pay or pick another degree field.

 

Oh, I would just round up their top 100 employees benefiting from corporate handouts in their paychecks & bonuses that run these corporations and stick them in classrooms. Might be a way of ending this cradle to grave BS. An 85 year old women will be exercising her brain, and passing what she learned onto her grandchildren. Broken hip, we can set her up with cam classes from her TV set, just for the most extremely disabled cases. We can play, well what the guy with one tooth, and make up excuses and exclusions all day long. If they can eat, stick them in a classroom.

The problem with the system you mentioned, is by the time they get the education completed, there are no longer any openings because things change. We are currently importing (I think) 40% of our medical workers from abroad. WHY? Because they get next to free educations, while our students (I assume) shun the years of educational loans and find something else to do. many American students leave America for cheaper educations.

We can give all levels of education from home. Hook up 300-400 edu-channels running 24/7 on TV for all Americans. Send them class materials, and test in edu-test facilities like we do DMV. Same for the graduation. Have regional labs for classes requiring lab work, like microscopy, biology, nursing, dissecting, etc. Or mobile labs that come into a community once or twice a month for the training. All those teachers you lose can get jobs tutoring if they want.

 

There is no utility in some of your proposals. If society is not benefiting, then it is wasted resources. An 85 year old has nothing else to contribute to society that will come from more training. They are done. Their economic contributions are over for all intents other than their existence creating opportunities for nurses and casket makers.

So your criticism of creating a system to encourage more medical workers with free education and training-opportunity integration is that it won't work here because it is working overseas? Doesn't quite compute.

bTW, in a lot of developed countries, degrees are a year shorter to obtain. I suppose you want to add another year on top of that just to be certain our people really know their stuff like how is the best way to set up a beer pong tournament.

 

It's not unusual that a religious person would opt for a private school education; after all, not everyone 'believes' as they do. They want their children to have the same beliefs, and those belief sets do not naturally stem from living life.

To me, as troubled as some public schools may be... their function and practical purpose of providing an education for millions of students/children.

A private model may indeed produce a more 'premium' outcome, but so it goes with many custom products that are generated for profit. The goal is the profit, not the actual well-being of society itself. Public schools are an 'investment', not something that costs nothing; but the alternative of leaving the masses completely uneducated = 3rd world nation. We don't really want to go there.

 

So many on the Right, allow their bigoted-boot-straps to trip them up. LOL!!!

 

think you misread my post, as I agree, I would though give them a tax cut for exactly what they paid in for public schools and no more then that, if you paid in $100.00, then that is all you would get back for the year with proof of educating your child in a private school

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yes they are, you can choose to home school or private school if you do not like public schools

 

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