What is it with 26 - 30 year old adults these days?

I think this is why trade schools are so hard to get into nowadays. I rememebr when I was in high school the trade kids were known as "trade rats" Guess who got ahead of the game? Them.

They had the same academic course I did but also learned about CNA, Cosmetology, auto mechanis, drafting etc. Some went on to college and some didnt. But those that didnt, had that intern experience and job knowledge that I didnt when getting out of high school. They were more likely to get the job over me.

My daughter wants to be a vet. So I sent her to an Agricultural High School. (350 apply, 150 get in every year, proud mama here) Half day academics, half day trade. She is automaically a part of the FFA and in her junior and senior years will intern with some major places (i.e. Westminster Kennel Club). She will be far ahead of the game compared to students who go to a normal high school and go the vet track.

I dont think its a matter of kids being lazy necessarily. I do think its hard for them to juggle everything. They have to be part of a club, community service, high grades etc etc in order to even get into a good college. And in college they have to maintain all that to graduate. They leave college with no work experience and then cant get a job because everyone wants work experience.

Its a lose/lose situation for them. My daughter works in the summer at a special needs camp. During the school year she walks a dog for a little money. I dont want her doing much more than that right now. She needs to concentrate on school first.

 

no it's not... because the most demanded future applicants can juggle all those responsibilities and have job experience on top of it. if your daughter can't handle all that.... never worry that their isn't someone else better able to juggle all of it out there, because there is.

 

There is always going to be someone better.

 

exactly, and all the crap kids have to do can be done. I never claimed it was easy.... and many MANY kids refuse to sacrifice stuff like social lives, to do what they need to, to be successful later in life and then fall back on "ohhhhh, I had sooo much to do as a in college, I couldn't get the work experience" Funny, according to your facebook, you had no issues partying.

 

What exactly does McD's offer someone who's likely trained for a career completely outside the food service industry? Because you get into a situation where same person wants to work for a company in the field they studied...and then they see, "Oh, your resume has college...and McDonald's. Hmmmm...We were looking for someone with experience in OUR industry."

So that literally solves nothing.

 

Without knowing the specifics, I cannot agree or disagree with you.

 

experience in punching a clock, meeting goals, working with others.... you name it.


it helps in the above sense.


to get in field experience.... figure out a way to get that done.


I subbed to get that experience.

 

Okay, you do have a point there. Noted. Personally, I think some kind of 'probationary period' for kids with no experience is something that would benefit both a the business and the applicant. I've seen several businesses do this (worked for one actually and where I got my foot in the door) and it's good because it's basically an agreement for short term work and lower than average pay. It's basically OJT and if you're hired on the premise that if you're not performing up to standards by an agreed time frame, you get the can. It can be abused, but even if the business abuses it to overall cut their operating costs, it still gives some career experience to the noob.

 

Well it seems there are this group:


vs this group:



and 1 or 2 like:




and the rest kind of feel like:

 

It's called stressing and burning yourself out. If you don't unwind, it effects you just as badly as not studying for a test. Teens that need that time to unwind, otherwise it effects us in the classroom.

 

sounds good.... when you strive for 'good enough' and others strive for the best.... don't be upset when a company doesn't settle for 'good enough'. And don't complain that you can't get hired without experience, and you can't get experience if you can't get hired.

I took the (*)(*)(*)(*) positions in my field to get my foot in the door because I had no real experience.... Nobody just gave me my first choice position at the ideal location.... I had to take what noone else wanted at the (*)(*)(*)(*)iest school in the district and got the experience I needed.


you aren't entitled to a job.... you earn it..... you pay your dues when you're young, so you don't have to when you're older. and just because you choose to (*)(*)(*)(*) away your youth chasing poon, doesn't mean someone else didn't bust their ass while you slacked.

 

choosing to sacrifice at 18-25 > being forced to sacrifice from 30 til you die. I live better at 38 than I would have had I mortgaged my future back in college like my roommates did.

 

Yeah I'm not worried about that. I'm more worried that a company thinks working at McDonalds is somehow better then doing community service. Maybe there's something to frying something that is more important then the skills and traits you gain from working in a club.

Clubs and sports teams didn't exist at your school because?

That's the exact same mentality as people who get caught up in the rat race. It doesn't get them anywhere because they don't learn how to live and love life. Sure it might help you put food on the table, but it doesn't put food in your soul.

 

How's working at a soup kitchen trying to "end hunger"? It's doing a nice favor for people sure, but "ending hunger"? That's a little melodramatic

The only way to "end hunger" would be to learn how to replace human organs with cybnetic-type parts so that they don't have to eat food just to survive, lol

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Working 40 hours a week's a given - if you can't learn how to have fun and hold a full time job at the same time then you're doing something wrong. I work full time and have to time go out to the local bars nearly every night if I want to

 

That might be a good way to deal with hunger in the long term, but senator humans eat every day. It's going to take awhile for that to happen, so we got to do what we can now to help each other.

Sure. 40 hours a week doing something that you put time and thought into doing. School isn't like that. Sure it might be shorter, but it doesn't mean that you have that extra time. You have homework and studying which if you're a good student, while end up being that 40 hour week. Then factor in everything else. That's easily over 40 hours.

 

only in your mind sheldon

 

My daughter in law thought the same as you, now she is regretting all that social life and she watches people with less social activity on their resumes get into the school she wanted. She did not work either. Even schools notice work ethic.

 

experience trumps piece of paper any day... you must be knew at the hiring game

when there is a job shortage, hiring is easy, when it gets harder is when there is no people applying for the job

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They don't think ahead and say hmmm how can I put myself ahead of the crowd when I do start applying for jobs. I'm gonna be applying for jobs real soon

 

Sure. I'm not saying that work ethic is a bad thing, but clubs display work ethic just as well. Having a position in a club is more impressive then saying you worked for mininuim wage. Then there's the added bonus of looking like you care about your community.

 

You obviously haven't been in a fast food joint recently.

You may see teenagers in the evening or on weekends.

Go there at noon on a work day, and you're very likely to be waited on by someone your own age (assuming you're in your 40's or 50's) or a retired person trying to make ends meet. And, for a lot of these people, it is their primary income. Statistics bear this out, and explode your stereotype.

 

you mean new? no been doing this for 30 years plus and it just keeps getting worse

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Auburn said other activities besides social stuff would have helped her cause when she was looking to attend vet school

 

Good Luck!

 

do the 9 to 5, and use alcohol to make it bearable, nice....