Disney to pull funding from Boy Scouts if they don't allow Homosexual leaders

Yes, both sexual orientations deviate from the norm. One is more socially tolerated than the other deviance.

 

What is the accepted norm when it comes to sexual behavior?

More importantly, which sexual behaviors can the moral entrepreneurs ban because they're icky? Let's fill the prisons with people who hump cars and kiss mailboxes. Not only will that improve society, but all of these civility laws will bring smaller government and reduced taxes.
Paradigms of social control and risk management are the first steps to a carceral society.

Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King were deviants. Just sayin'

 

As you build your neoliberal Utopia of perfect humans, the rest of us are dealing with actual harms -- not just what feels weird due to your social construct of "deviance".

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The accepted norm would depend on the circles you run in.

Who said anything about locking up homosexuals? I just posted the definition of deviant. It seems like you should put your jumping to conclusion mat away.

I've been called a sexual deviant by a few ladies myself. It didn't hurt my feelings one bit, I just found a freakier one next time.

 

I've always said any person who can't tell the difference between two adults of the same gender having a consensual relationship and an adult forcing themselves on a child....that individual should not be allowed around children.

So Sec...do the world a favor and stay away from children.

 

Looks like people are having a hard time accepting a simple truth such as deviant behavior. I wonder what else you deny?

 

That's my point: social norms are socially constructed. As a result, they vary from one society to another. Not surprisingly, some societies are more tolerant of gender and sexual differences than others. Erving Goffman, an pioneer in studying deviance, considered homosexuality to be deviant, but not once did he say that their "spoiled identity" was intrinsic, or that they were a dangerous other that should be controlled.

An act is deviant only because a society at that time says it is. But deviance isn't necessarily a bad thing. Another early social theorist, Emile Durkheim, often talked about a society of saints, where there would still be unlawful acts, but the standards would be higher. (You can never get rid of deviance).

 

I agree. I just didn't have the sack to say it out loud. Glad you did.

 

Here comes stats that show that gay men are more likely to self-report... er... get caught molesting children...

 

The same would have to be said for paco. He apparently does not know the difference between adults and children.

 

ahh

personal attack, awesome


Well, I did create children and volunteered in many youth organizations and school activities. I take seriously mitigating risks for all children and your agenda of all things homosexual takes a back seat when it comes to children.

Fortunately, the lord blessed me with children and gave me the ability to coach and mentor others and to stand up for what is right, just and moral.

 

Oh, I know the difference, as I have a son of my own. What I don't want is you NAMBLA types bringing your gay-is-normal, child grooming, indoctrination tactics around my child. Everybody knows that NAMBLA is a gay rights organization. NAMBLA = man/boy love = male/male love = GAY.

Men are male. Boys are male. NAMBLA is the North American Man/Boy Love Association. Male + male = GAY.

I know this bothers you, by the way.

 

it is a sad state of affairs to see people try and state that male on male sex is not homosexual

Even worse are those who will not naturally be parents to state how it's good for kids to expose them to danger

 

No, you're wrong. NAMBLA is condemned by gay rights advocates everywhere. NAMBLA is a pedophile organization. Adults are adults. Children are children. I am in no way a part of NAMBLA, and for you to say I am is slander and completely false. Post reported.

I know this bothers you, by the way.

You also never answered my question- do you think it's socially acceptable for a man to have sex with a girl? You don't seem to be very concerned with that at all, which worries me...

 

Deviant's a moot point (ask a fundie Muslim and he'll tell you that women showing legs is deviant, and there's no way to "prove him wrong" either ) - the only real issue is the govt's role. Most people believe the govt's job isn't to protect adults from themselves - so whether it's the govt telling a person what they can do with their private parts, or how much soda they can put in their body - it's pretty much a no-brainer what role the govt plays in this (other than the out of touch elitists who just enjoy controlling people's lives)

I'd venture most sane people understand the difference between personal and interpersonal ethics - ex. laws should primarily deal with interpersonal ethics (ex. murder and rape are forms of deviancy punishable by law, since said actions harm others directly - on the flip side what Big Gay Al decides to do with his willy, or whether Fatima decides to be in the company of men without her burka - are personal ethics, and therefore not an area which govt should control).

So debating the 'deviancy' factor is just an excessive in mental masturbation - They also need to drop the 'pedophilia' argument since consent's the deciding factor here - and even the one's using that analogy know they really understand the difference, lol

 

OMG- are we actually sort of agreeing?

 

Did you bang any of those children? No?? Then why are you so frightened others will. It DOES happen. But it's exceedingly rare. You're fearing things that don't exist.

 

Just pointing out your lack of understandings he difference between two adults of the same gender having consensual sex and an adult forcing the self on a child points to a serious deficit of perception.

 

Report away, to your heart's content. My post wasn't directed at you personally. However, if the shoe fits...

I also didn't see your question from before. No, I do not believe that it is socially acceptable in this part of the world for a man to have sex with a girl. It is in other parts of the world, but those societies are in the minority. Don't be surprised though, if you gays get your way and your gay marriages are ever legalized at the federal level here, when the pedophiles demand that their child marriage from Yemen or Africa be recognized here in the U.S. under the guise of "civil rights". That is the floodgate that your kind are so desperately trying to open up here.

 

No one has ever taken nambla as a gay rights organization.

Sorry to burst your bubble but that's just more fear mongering in an attempt to smear the gay rights movement.

Keep trying though. We'll keep winning court cases,

 

Who cares. They're a private company, they can support whoever they like.

The sole reason why companies do stuff like this is because the culture war has already been won. The majority of people have no problem with homosexuals. It helps Disney's image to do stuff like this. Like it or not, most people do

 

Still a lie. You're still a liar.

 

Why do you insist on mocking the LGBT community? What have they ever done to you that makes you feel it's morally justified to make fun of them? It's because of people like you that hate crimes exist in the first place.

If it's all about anal sex, I guess virgins can't be homosexual.

 

Someone mentioned it broke down to about 2k per troop.
Hopefully the communities that enjoy scouting, and those with traditional values will pick up the slack and the BSA can tell Disney to keep their funds.

 

and it's disturbing and very telling by your refusal to say the words that male/male sex is homosexual. Thankfully there are natural parents like me who will never let down their guard over political correctness when it comes to mitigating risks of our children. Even calling us that ever dreaded word "homophobe" will not deter us.