A majority of Americans including me support some kind of legal relationship for gays but not "marriage".
Seems to me when you ask the same question to 9 federal judges, who are well trained in the law, and they all give you the same answer, whether or not you agree with it, it's probably right. That would be like getting 8 identical second opinions on a medical diagnosis, and then you deciding all 9 doctors are wrong and you are right.
Incorrect. The latest number I've seen from a national poll is 56% in favor of legal same sex marriage. A number that's been rapidly growing every year.
The will of the people are irrelevant when it comes to rights. Those of you that think the will of the people matters are totally ignorant of how this country works. The constitution and the supreme court are designed to protect our rights. you will of the people types need to learn about the constitution.
Latest poll on the subject says a new high of 50% support gay marriage.It is a very divisive issue and pretty much goes right along with the numbers of liberals VS conservatives. We truly are a divided nation. http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...37e87e-a3e5-11e3-a5fa-55f0c77bf39c_story.html
You misread (or didn't read at all) the article you linked. It says 50% think they have a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to same sex marriage. It says that a record 59% (and that is the highest I've ever personally seen anywhere) are in favor of it. That number, BTW, just keeps rising and rising and rising. The reasons are simple, every old person who dies is statistically far more likely to be opposed to it and every fresh new 18 year old voter that replaces them are statistically far more likely to be in favor. Not universally true, but in high enough margins to account for the rapid change in public opinion.
Well it looks like gay marriage will be the "norm" in my life time I guess. "Times they are a changin".
My prediction is that one (or more) of the cases winding their way to SCOTUS will be heard late this year or early next, and in July they'll announce a 5-4 decision declaring same sex marriage to be a Constitutional right. And then Scalia's head will explode, quite possibly literally.
Indeed. The demographics guarantee progress but, whilst an American being accorded equal rights is not dependent upon the vagaries of public opinion, once the Court upholds equality, those who oppose it quickly fade away. One need only recall the experience when Virginia's Racial Integrity Act of 1924 was overturned: In 1965, two years before the Supreme Court decided Loving v. Virginia, Gallup’s national survey asked respondents if they approved or disapproved of “it being a crime for a white person and a negro to marry.” Forty-eight percent of respondents approved of interracial marriage being a crime, 46% disapproved, and 6% had no opinion on the matter. In 1970, five years after the initial poll and three years after Loving v. Virginia, the number of respondents who approved of interracial marriage being a crime had dropped to 35%, those disapproving of these marriages being a crime had jumped to 57%, and 8% had no opinion on the matter. Progress happens faster than some expect in matters such as this. .
Close enough to 50% ,believe in your "inconceivable ,2% even of the gay Vote ,is very low ,and if we add the 5years or more crowd ,a FULL 70%,question the accuracy of your prediction of the Inconceivable. Same sex or Gay and Lesbian Marriage or Gay and lesbian Rights ,or the LGBT infiltrating Government ,was so the Political flavour of L:ast Year! Hello,WW3 in the Ukraine is about to break out, who gives a Rats arse about .Gay marriage rights " for Middle class America ?!?ReallY! The Workers Government of the United Socialist States of the AMERICA's. May consider the question, of ABOLITION OF MARRIAGE! So the struggle for Equality of Women Particularly ,can be achieved! When the foul ,Oppressive INSTITUTION OF MARRIAGE ,is abolished in LAW!
"In my opinion, there is no "right" of "marriage" for same-sex "couples". " you are wrong and living in the past
Who ever believes that might want to check out this thread: http://www.politicalforum.com/gay-l...l-stand-much-longer-obstacle-right-marry.html True, no right to SSM has been established yet. However, there courts are going in a clear and consistent direction . I say we'll be there in 3 years or less
Truth? What truth? Your truth? God's truth? My truth? The truth of someone else? And "best for society"? Who gets to decide that? You? Me? Others? God? Do you believe that we live in a theocracy?
Vladimir Putin would like you to attend a state dinner at the Kremlin as his personal guest. He want to hear from you about how to best rid his county of the gay menace.
Progress is inevitable. The non-discriminatory policy of issuing marriage license to couples without regard to gender, race, or creed has been adopted by the more progressive states and, as a decade of experience now attests, normality prevails despite auguries of moral collapse. When, precisely, the Supreme Court rules that gender discrimination in marriage law violates both the Due Process Clause and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, as happened in Loving v Virginia, is largely a matter of when the appropriate case is adjudicated. Whenever that is, the US will have joined other advanced nations, and Islamic theocracies and Russia will still be imposing an attitude that a pocket of obdurate dissidents will still prefer.
I would like to here from some of the 53% of respondents to this pole who think that it will take from 10 years to never to achieve full rights? What is that based on? Given the pace of progress in the courts, they must be in very deep denial, or have a serious problem with reading comprehension.