CPAC Attempts Minority Outreach...

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  1. BitterPill

    BitterPill New Member Past Donor

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    It doesn't matter how many trillions Conservatives spend reaching out to minorities. They simply cannot achieve the aim, and this thread is a perfect example of why.
     
  2. Lil Mike

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    I was looking, but it doesn't seem like you actually had an argument to make/
     
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    you must be talking about Reagan, Clinton, Bush phone.
     
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    That's why minorities prefer liberals--because we see them a property to be owned and manipulated?

    Hey, I guarantee you minorities wouldn't appreciate that at all, but perhaps you've accidentally come up with a reason conservatives are viewed so poorly by minorities in general.

    Your post is an excellent example of why conservatives reaching out to minorities is doomed to failure.

    Thanks for the very powerful post.
     
  5. Mac-7

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    Those men are not president.

    These are Obama phones now.
     
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    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most of the Democrats I know are working and get no "handouts".

    But many of them believe in freedom and living in a free country. Something the Republicans constantly fight to end. I mean, really! Republicans say its "despotic" to say people need to provide for their own health care with government help, but its just just fine for the Republicans to determine what kind of sex between consenting adults is "acceptable" to them?
     
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    BitterPill New Member Past Donor

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    That's a bit weak as a reason, "it's only bad when Obama does it," but every bit helps explain why conservatives even reaching out to minorities is a complete waste of time.
     
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    Believe it or not, I actually know a conservative who doesn't work and gets government handouts, but he's probably an anomaly.
     
  9. Mac-7

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    How do you know what I said about communications handouts when republicans were in office?

    Unlike libs who are connected to obama at the hip I'm not driven to blindly defend republicans when they are wrong.
     
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    This attitude is common among the Right and Republicans, and the utter ignorance and bigotry demonstrated in it is why the the Republicans and the RIght becomes more marginal every election.

    Buh bye, Righties. What a FAIL!
     
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    It was about outreach into those communities....IOW not meant for minorities

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    They could start by attending the cpac seminar on exactly that
     
  12. Brewskier

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    Minorities aren't not voting for Republicans because of white racism, at least that's not the main reason. That's the reality that seems to escape you, that I covered already.
     
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    Because you give them stuff. Money, subsidized housing, shortcuts to college, affirmative action jobs, a scapegoat to blame all their problems and failures on, etc.

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    Except when it comes to 17 ounce sodas and choosing your own healthcare plan. Then the Government steps in.
     
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    They become more marginal because of the 3rd worlding of America thanks to rapidly changing demographics. Destroying the country just so progressives can stay in charge... that's a fail.
     
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    Although handouts may be a factor now, even before the New Deal and the handout culture Democrats were far superior in organizing groups by ethnic group. They provided services to new immigrants and in large cities like Chicago had block captains to figure out what people needed and to get for them, for the price of their loyalty of course. If the block captain gets your addled nephew a job with the city, then you feel you've benefited from the system. Even the little things helped. My father told me how his father on voting day was picked up by the Sheriff, driven to the polls, and given a shot of whiskey for his troubles.

    Republicans have nothing to compare to that. And of course, you add in the massive social welfare system that exists now, which Democrats not inaccurately take credit for, what do the Republicans have to bribe voters with? Nothing.
     
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    Why would they vote for a party that consistently belittles them and thinks of them as nothing more than second class trash?
     
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    The better question is why would they vote for any other party than the one that platforms on giving them free stuff.
     
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    That would be the dems who buy the minority vote year after year with government handouts.
     
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    Keep telling yourself that.
     
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    Perhaps because a lot of blacks don't like gays and hispanics? :hmm:
     
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    Actually, that's exactly why they don't vote for Republicans. Blacks know the ideology of the people who were behind atrocities such as slavery and Jim Crow laws, and most aren't going to align with them. Blacks used to vote Republican, until they became the conservative party. The GOP decided that building a strong conservative "base" based on white resentment towards blacks and other minorities was the way to go, and while it worked then, it's biting the GOP in the ass now.

    As for "hispanics", the same conservatives who don't like blacks, don't like them either. You spout off constant racist drivel about people, and then you expect their vote? heh.

    You can even add Asians in that mix now. They supported Obama even more than "hispanics" did, LOL.
     
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    Nah, it's more common than you think.

    Many poor whites vote against their best interest due to racial/religious reasons. I know a very socially conservative older guy who received numerous "hand outs", but was against abortion, hated Mexicans, and thought Obama was a muslin, so he generally voted Republican.
     
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    Actually, no it's not. 75% of Hispanics prefer the idea of big Government offering more services. Obviously that's going to be the Democrat Party.

    I'm sure the demographic death spiral of the US is a laughing matter for you. Progressive whites hope to be the elites ruling peasants from on the hill. Hopefully the whole system crashes long before they get that satisfaction. At this rate, I'd say that's a certainty.
     
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    LOL, you can deny it all you want.

    The Democrats used to own the entire conservative south until the civil rights act was passed, and then of course the brilliant southern strategy of Nixon and Reagan to garner the racist vote. Since the Democrats became the liberal party they haven't won the white vote since. I bet it's all one massive coincidence though, eh? LOL.

    Now the south is for the most part, solidly Republican.

    But go ahead, keep bashing people who look different than you. I guess they weren't lucky enough to be born a member of the master race, eh?
     
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    That's the thing. The GOP's starting point is 'buying the lazy guy'. Obviously if you call someone lazy when they work, you lost their vote before you even have anything else to say. GOP doesn't get it. And until they get it, they're not going to get that 20% black vote they need to even stand a chance in any future election from now to eternity.

    EDIT:

    Here's what they hear the GOP say on a day to day basis in terms of getting the minority vote:

    "How do we get these ni***rs, ch**ks, and w*tb**ks to vote for us?"

    That's what they hear. And the GOP thinks changing their message will ultimately change how they're perceived, but ultimately, it's just changing those words to "lazy, uneducated, welfare queens", "47%", etc. You can call a piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) a turd, poo, lincoln log, etc. But we all know what you're referring to when you do. The GOP is literally making that kind of 'message change'. They're not saying 'our fellow citizens who we wish to enrich'. THey're saying everything but that.
     

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