Obama threatens to veto bill that would require administration to enforce laws

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  1. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, and the founding fathers of this country seem to have set up an amazingly well working, stable system.

    That being said, should individuals in congress, the literal hundreds of them, decide whom is and is not doing their job? Of course not. That would be silly, as it is not the job of the legislative branch to decide whom is and is not doing their job. If this bill would become law, why shouldn't we just get rid of the president and the USSC if we are going to allow Congress to do the thinking for us?
     
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    Of course I'm not happy with how the Supreme Court has interpreted "regulate interstate commerce". However the ACA wouldn't exist today if the Democrats hadn't admitted the "mandate" was a "TAX". Armed with that information Republicans will have a much easier time unseating Democrats from all levels of Government in this crappy Obamanomics economy. That's how politics works.
     
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    Laws are specific and who is or isn't doing their jobs becomes apparent by the outcome. The courts are set up to decide if they are or aren't. If we have learned anything from the Obama Presidency, it is Presidents should NOT be allowed to choose the Attorney General, that needs to be an elected post chosen by the people. Obama's DOJ more closely resembles the KGB than a Dept of Justice as we know it. That needs to change.
     
  4. TRFjr

    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    first of all it wouldn't be one individual it would be the majority of congress to pass then then it goes to the courts for action
    I can tell you are participating in a conversation you know nothing about go read up on the bill then come back and join the discussion
     
  5. RP12

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    If a law is UnConstitutional there is this thing called the USSC. You do know there are three branches of the Government right and not just Obama?
     
  6. Think for myself

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    I disagree.

    I see a law that is ready to be used as a partisan hammer, nothing more. There is no need for additional oversight form the legislative branch over the executive branch, nor vice versa. This would give, in theory, the legislative branch say over the executive using a tort system in a manner it was not designed nor intended to do.
     
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    Why wouldnt Obama veto that? Dont you think there would be public discourse about such a thing and instant court challenges?
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    I think its amazing that leftys vote for a guy, who they knew ahead of time, wont do their jobs.
     
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    They voted for him because he wasnt Bush and the color of his skin. Then again after Bush the Dems could have had a talking carrot run for office and beat out Bush 3 ( McCain)
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How in the hell can you disagree with a bill you even haven't have a clue what's in it and the process involved
     
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    obama and pals voted for bills they never even read.....
     
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    I explained my position. I cited the portions of the Constitution where it is upon a president to appoint, with the advice of the senate, and where these officials can be removed. I see no reason to toss the Constitution in favor of creating a partisan attack machine and tipping the balance of power between the three branches in this country.
     
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    You do know that it can possibly take months or years for something to be found unconstitutional right?
     
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    I hope the senate passes it, i wanna see obama veto his freakn oath of office.
     
  15. Professor Peabody

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    So would you prefer Obama be impeached for violating his oath of office to uphold the Constitution?
     
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    I am addressing the thread topic. If you would like to go off on some tangent about how the president "violated his oath of office", then start a thread on it and I may grace it with my presence.
     
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    UPDATE!

    House GOP passes ‘Enforce the Law’ Act to battle Obama’s imperial presidency

    Now let's see what Hapless Harry and the Democrats do over in the Senate. I forgot who it was that said many times President Bush is overstepping his authority.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Nice deflection, but juxtaposition is always on topic. Besides, I was just addressing YOUR post, do you want to retract it?
     
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    I disagree.

    At no point was I discussing the presidential oath. I am not sure why you think it is relevant or addressing "my post".
     
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    That would be the Constitutional thing to do, wouldn't it? What do you have against following the Constitution?
     
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    We've already seen how the president "faithfully executes" only the laws he feels are to his advantage and ignores the rest (like suing Jan Brewer for enforcing federal immigration laws while ignoring how California has completely ignored immigration policy).
     
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    Not really sure how even a democrat/progressive cannot agree with this, but you know they will. Obama says he would veto it...now if that doesn't tell you all you need to know, I don't know what does.
     
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    Wonder how many progressives would think the president has been overreaching his powers if the president was Republican.
     
  23. Professor Peabody

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    You said...........

    In that context I pointed out that....

    The President has a duty to execute the laws. He obviously isn't and that's why there is a bill to force him to comply (the subject of this thread). In light of the fact you disagree with that bill, I asked if you would rather have him impeached for violating his oath of office. My line of postings are relevant, I hope this clears that up for you.
     
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    I disagree. I was discussing the bill and it's ramifications, not whether or into I think the president broke or upheld the law. Not sure what your point is, but I am happy to clarify this for you.
     
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    So was I.
     

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