Why do liberals hate guns?

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    enforced how?
     
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    It doesn't matter how its enforced...........what he said is correct unless you can prove he is wrong.

    I suggest you do this because this is the only way we are going to change our beliefs. Asking "how" it is enforced doesn't prove that...................the right of the People to choose those who govern them, ISN"T fundamental to freedom.

    Nice try though!
     
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    How do you ensure your privilege to vote is maintained? You do know N Korea just had their "democratic" elections......guess who won......
    Voting is only good as long as the elected represent all of the people they are elected to represent. At one time in this nation, only land owners were allowed to vote. One reason is that any lawmaker coming into office was going to directly affect them. property taxes were one way to pay off the war debt. Since the non-owners weren't being taxed, the ones who paid, got the first ear.
    So, it is a consideration, that since most taxing laws directly affect land owners, they should get the vote, first.
    ........especially on issues of property tax.
    So back to my original statement, how do you enforce your right to vote? because the government can suspend elections.
     
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    so, how to you protect that right/privilege? whine and cry, or fight?
     
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    Liberals hate guns? I'm a liberal. I own a gun and I love guns.

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    For those that actually hate guns, I think a lot of it is ignorance and emotions, but for most people, I don't think it has much or anything to do with republicans liking guns.
     
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    you are one of several Liberals that own guns in this forum
     
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    Again, why are you RUNNING from addressing the logical inconsistency?? Is it because you realize you CANT.........therefore its just easier if you don't?

    If a restriction means "bit by bit" removal of your rights or privileges, then why isn't restrictions on voting seen as the same thing????

    If a restriction on guns is seen as bit by bit removal..................then why isn't restrictions on voting seen as bit by bit removal. Why the logical inconsistency to justify your position?? In other words, a logical inconsistency shows that your logic isn't sound.
     
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    Again, you are running from addressing my questions............but then expect me to answer yours? Now that's funny!

    Why is your logic inconsistent when it comes to "restrictions". Why are some restrictions seen as bit by bit removal, but yet other restrictions are not????? If this is logical............then restrictions on voting is a bit by bit removal, whereas restrictions on guns are not. See? Nah, I know you CANT see? You tried to see, but proved that you couldn't.

    Now we need to figure out why you CANT see? Ideology or lack of intelligence? Which is it? LOL
     
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    You're the only one......so see it your way.
    The American voting system isn't for foreign interlopers. You would throw out the window so illegal's can vote in America elections? How about dead people? Should they be allowed to vote?

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    how do you protect your Rights?
     
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    There are no restrictions on voting other than having to be a citizen.
     
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    Prove that statement.


    I dont think you can. As I believe it to be entirely untrue.
     
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    Guns are not made to initiate force with, they're made to project force. Whether that use of force is retaliatory or coercive is a case by case thing. Hence, gun prohibiton should be on a case by case basis. Q: have you used your firearm in a coercive manor (ie: to initiate rather than retaliate against force). If yes, you're a wanker and shouldn't have your freedom or your firearm. If no, then I have no cause to take your weapon.

    No exceptions. The burden of proof should always be on the state to show coercive (not necessarily irresponsible) use. Cocking an unloaded gun and firing it against your temple is terribly stupid, but it's not coercive.
     
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    Who said liberals hate guns?

    This is a baiting thread.
     
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    How about being able to vote more than once? Why not as many times as you want? Why isn't that ok? restrictions are there. taking away bit by bit would be an issue. I have no idea what that rex dude is driving towards. You are exactly right.
     
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    Sure there are, you have to be 18, you have to be registered, you can only vote once and if you're dead, you get three votes.

    Oh, and you can only vote in your district.
     
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    If the thing you're putting holes in is yourself, your property, or someone else's property with their permission, then there's nothing whatsoever wrong with it. Gun control assumes malicious intent based on the crimes of others. It's collective punishment and it assumes you guilty until proven innocent.
     
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