Why do liberals hate guns?

True, it is hardly surprising that the overwhelming majority of normal Americans agree that criminals and lunatics should not be allowed to blithely and anonymously purchase shooty things by which they can slaughter Americans.

There do not seem to be any sane reasons to facilitate the mayhem they are disposed to inflict.

 

Murder laws don't prevent murders, as is made obvious by the murder rate, they define the consequences for committing murder. We need laws that define consequences for when one violates the rights of another. Your straw man is ridiculous.

Legislatively, you cannot prevent people who will use guns to commit crimes from getting a gun, you can only make it harder for those who WON'T commit crimes to get them. Unless you're talking about wholesale government confiscation, which itself is a ridiculous premise.

As to your Chicago comment, if you can show that the surrounding counties with looser gun laws have MORE gun violence than Chicago, then I will address it. Otherwise, it's just a ridiculous premise that does not deserve addressing.

 

Why are restrictions on being able to vote not "vote grabbing", but yet restrictions on guns are "gun grabbing".

why the inconsistency in your logic?

 

and of course, the Libs will set the definitions of what "crazy" is. like if you chew a pop tart into the shape of a gun, you and your entire family can be defined as "crazy", right?
or if you voted for an independent in the last election, that could be used as a definition of "crazy"

 

Sorry, there is no right to vote.

http://reclaimdemocracy.org/right_to_vote/

 

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The 85% of Americans (whom the delusional paranoid fringe label "Libs!") agree that it is possible to identify those documented homicidal maniacs and criminals readily by checking their backgrounds.

Why would any rational person want to make it easy for them to access weapons?

 

Thanks for continuing to show your ignorance of the issue. Let me know when criminals start following the law.

 

why not quote the whole thing? cherry picking always is such a winning argument.
I would suspect there are already tools in place and used everyday. When you have a population of 300 million, there's always going to be a few that slip through the cracks. But we are only talking about a few. Then there's no way to account when someone is going to snap. If we could do that, we'd know who would win the super bowl every year.
here's the quote in its entirety:

Right?

 

If you vote democrat and if your Congress Critter and state legislator reps are not in their first term, you have voted for someone who supports, with their voting record, gun grabbing.

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Rights should have very few restrictions. Voting has nearly none.

 

I'm an Alaskan. Do you know what that means? So again, what democrats did I vote for that are "gun grabbers?"

 

What "whole thing"?

Whether you need to label them all "Liberals!", I concur with the 85% who agree that universal gun purchase background checks are appropriate.

If you don't believe that such measures should be taken to prevent easy access by criminals and lunatics, try to articulate your rationale.

 

Which dems did you vote for??

 

I would like to see the source for your alleged 85% want gun registration and confiscation.

Who sets the definitions? Liberal politicians, anti-gun doctors, who?

 

Well you just settled it. Since criminals don't follow the law, then we should get rid of murder laws or rape laws.

 

Why are you so desperate that you need to make up such a thing when you know I never said that?

Do you agree with the 85% who support universal gun purchase background checks to keep maniacs and violent criminals from buying guns?

Try to answer the question honestly and forthrightly

 

You are under the assumption that laws are created to stop things like Murder or Rape. You would be incorrect in that assumption. The laws create punishments for such actions so if you want to get rid of the punishments for violations of others rights, then have at it.

Now, let me know when murderers and rapists start following the laws on Murder or Rape.

Now, explain to me how I am violating anyone's right by passing a background check and owning a gun?

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People believe a lot of things, with guns it is often based on propaganda by lobbies like the Brady Campaign.

 

Which Alaskan democrats grabbed guns? Can you name any?

 

Since they are based upon explicit lies, they are not legitimate questions. As the record attests, I never said that "85% want gun registration and confiscation," despite such a blatantly false attribution.

I may as well ask you why you insist that homicidal maniacs and violent criminals should be encouraged to amass personal arsenals. Why do you insist that is such a great idea?

As I had posted: To the question, "Do you favor or oppose a federal law requiring background checks on all potential gun buyers?", 85% indicated they favored it, and only 12% opposed it. CBS News Poll. Dec. 4-8, 2013)

I agree with most folks, and, whilst you can get as verklempt as you want in your alienation from the vast majority, you should still try to handle the truth.



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where did you come up with that? quote the post.
I have indicated to you that there is no way to register all of the maniacs. it is impossible. The only way to do as you demand, is to register gun owners and that is against fed law.
And just who would define crazy?

 

The laws WILL eventually change.

 

The Liberal Mecca of America!!

 

The vast majority of Americans, including myself, support universal background checks.

If that gets you in a tizzy, that's unfortunate.

 

Now, to date myself. When I was a reserve officer the murder rate in the U.S. was 1967 - 12,240, 1968 - 13,800, 1967 - 12,240! That was with less than 2/3 of the population we have now. And what did the Liberal congress do to curb it??? We had to sign for any ammunition we bought. Oh, WOW, that did a lot of good now didn't it. By 1991 the murder rate got up to 24,700. And here you sit and snivel about 14,827 murders in 2012 ( that happens to be the last year there are statistics for, not 2011; http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm). Now, the murder rate was already dropping when the Brady Bill was signed. It continued to drop after the "Assault Ban" expired. So what is your problem now??? We have over 315 million people in this nation with a lot of drug cartels thrown in the mix. Try this on for size for a minute or two;

Count and rate per 100,000 population
Europe
Russia 9.7
Belarus 4.9
Moldova 7.5
Swaziland 12.9
Ukraine 5.2
Estonia 5.2
Greenland 19.2
Lithuania 6.6

Africa
South Africa 31.8
Sudan 24.2
Botswana 14.5
Lesotho 35.2
Ivory Coast 56.9

Compared to the United Sates number of 4.8 per 100,00. Here, go look them up yourself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Compared to the world we don't even come in at the top 115 nations. If I'm not mistaken we are at number 121. You MIGHT wast you energies on the top 120 nations and get their murder rates down before turning on the U.S..