Palestinians Send SMS Threats to Israelis - "Leave our country or die"

That doesn't make any sense.

 

I prefer to do what we must even if its very un popular or against the better judgment of the UN - than do whats popular and suffer occasional attacks from Hamas that wants to show they have bigger balls than the Israelis.

The only way I would support a withdraw (Jerusalem excluded) is with some statement that will take the wind off future "resistance".

 

Doing "what you must" is fully consistent with international law and would thus be popular so I'm not quite sure what your point is. The ball of international peace predicated in international law and justice for the Palestinians that this implies, is firmly in the Israeli court, so the manner in which the ball is returned is determined by the course of action Israel takes. Actions speak louder than words and it's these actions which indicate Israel is not interested in playing ball but instead thinks it can play a cheating game and get away it with impunity.

 

It's telling that you put resistance in inverted commas. It logically follows that there would be no resistance to illegal Israeli aggression if there were no illegal land grabs that were indicative of the said aggression.

 

Reality does not fit inside your beautiful frame, we are dealing with terror not an orgenized official army, the punitive actions against orgenized terror in some county are very limited and there is no way in hell you will persuide me that the International community will lift a finger when Hamas or Jihad or whatever kidnapps an Israeli from the newly splitted Jerusalem area that you suggest. so we know for a fact we can only count on ourselves when that happens, what we demand in return for withdrawal is a statement that will make such attack illegal and enable us to fight it - or - if the Palestinian state worths a spit they should do it themselves. that's what I mean by taking the wind out of any future resistance, the cease of hostileties, more commonly refered by Israeli as recognition in the Jewish state.

 

Notice I wrote in case of an agreement so there should be no "resistance" unless they keep the line of "liberating" Haifa and Tel Aviv etc'.

 

The world community insists that Israel obeys international law. It refuses and you refuse to condemn it for doing so. Instead you use the cloak of patriotism and sophistry as a deflection tactic. There are openly pro-Israeli's and Muslim-hater's who frequent this thread who I respect for their honesty more so than you.

 

Indeed we see here your true colors.

 

sent a text with what? with what.. a burner phone?

in other news, some anonymous person added a comment to a news story....

for all we know bad words from either side are from families of the dead, mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, both sides have their victims of this war.. many angry people

sadly, only time can heal the wounds, but both sides have to want the wounds to heal before they start to heal...

sadly... I think many on both sides think extinction of the other is the answer... and that is just not realistic...

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Respect however you wish Im not trying to appease you...., Im saying what I think and what I belive in, I know the PLO will never fight Hamas and Hamas will never accept PLO recognition of any kind in Israel so the fighting will continue even if Israel withdraws, you are naive or dishonest to suggest otherwise. still an agreement can be reached if Israel gets some insurence by way of formal declaration that all hostelitiles and future demands out of Israel are done with. if even that is not suggested then what's is there to talk about?

 

Sure, international law. You mean Israel should lie down and let any abuser abuse it.
Wonder where your international law is all those years of genocide in Syria ? Where it is here and now that Russia have taken over Ukraine ?
Where it is when people are enslaved to build stadiums in Qatar for the football championship it bribed to host ?
Where is it when the Palestinians shoot rockets on civilians in Israel ?
Where it is when the Palestinians plant bombs in Israeli buses ?
The Arabs have more than 20 states. Only Egypt which is one of them is 100 times larger than Israel. What land grabbing are you talking about ?

 

Right, that makes sense....NOT.

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Nice series of strawmen there..I'm consistent, you're not.

 

and what would Israelis say to nazis that occupy and build illegal settlements on Israeli territory? As for what is ISraeli territory look no further than the response of the state of Israel to the UN in 1948 "Question (a): Over which areas of Palestine do you actually exercise control at present? Over the entire area of the Jewish State as defined in the Resolution of the General Assembly of the 29th November, 1947. In addition, the Provisional Government exercises control over the city of Jaffa; Northwestern Galilee, including Acre, Zib, Base, and the Jewish settlements up to the Lebanese frontier; a strip of territory alongside the road from Hilda to Jerusalem; almost all of new Jerusalem; and of the Jewish quarter within the walls of the Old City of Jerusalem. The above areas, outside the territory of the State of Israel, are under the control of the military authorities of the State of Israel, who are strictly adhering to international regulations in this regard." Reply from the state of Israel reply to the UN security council as found on page 3 of UN document number S/766 dated 22 May 1948 (a few days after the declaration of independence). Note the areas outside of the borders of the state of Israel.

No country can acquire territory by way of war and hence the armistice lines of 1949 (the pre 67 green line) are not borders as the borders were confirmed in Israels response to the UN as above.

Israel must just retreat from the land that they have illegally taken.

 

UN resolution 242 disagrees with you.
Israel had accepted it, the Arab countries have not.

 

Taba was the closest to an agreement Israel-Palestine came to and as usual Israel scuppered it. Israel doesn't want peace. It's continued land-grabs speak louder than it's rhetoric.

 

Aha......and we should take the war they inflicted us with for the past 60 years in good humor, so what if we paid in blood for thier ego and nearly got wiped, let's ignore everything accept THIER rights.....

I dont think so...

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If a simple statement that has no bearing to the peace loving ppl of future Plaestine is worth losing more land - than so be it.

 

It's a statement that's true indicating that Israel has no interest in peace other than on its own expansionist terms.

 

How so ?

 

Self-explanatory.

 

Actually we dont need to go down to such detalis, enough to say we disagree on Jerusalem.

 

Jihadis don't bluff. The are the slime of the earth, but are only the second lowest of the low. They are not Chickenhawks.

On 9/11, I knew it was terrorism when the first plane hit. The jihadis had said they would attack America. They had carried through on every other threat, such as the embassies and the USS Cole bombing. Arabs are primitive and not verbal, so they have never learned the decadent word trickery practiced in our collapsing Dhimmiworld.

 

I have read 242 and it does not contradict the statements made by Israel to the UN in UN doc S/766. The PLO accepted res 181 in 1989. I dont know about the other countries but Jordan ceeded its rights tot he west bank to the PLO.

 

If you don't hate certain people and aren't driven by that hate to do something about it, your Dhimmi life will be even shorter.

Israel Is Our Shield.

 

Israeli policy is no different from America's former Manifest Destiny, which required eviction of an obsolete savage race that forfeited its land by never getting out of it any more than wild animals did. Without the peace that came from evicting the people who had been living on borrowed time, America would never have contributed the natural resources and advanced-human inventions that the whole world has benefited from, including the Indians who quit terrorizing us. Feralphiles want the rest of us to sink into their own sick Death Wish. Such cowards are unfit mutants. It's time we do our evolutionary duty towards such traitors to human progress.

 

Terrorism truely is terrible. I lived close to the St James chruch massacre that took place in the early 90's by soldiers of the liberation struggle in South Africa. I read a book called executive outcomes written by Eben Barlow where he states that he got info from the Iranians about USS Cole attck two weeks in advance and he gave the intel to the saudis who were going to pass it on to the CIA. If the CIA knew about it and did nothing then they wanted it to take place.

Al quaida has got as much to do with the Palestinians as the USA has with Russia