I just came across this as I was catching up on the news just now. I have to say I'm shocked, I know some may not believe me but it's true I'm totally flabbergasted. http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2014/...-culture-war-and-lost-a-generation/?hpt=hp_t4 What are christians thinking when behaving this way? Are there christians here that think this type of behavior is OK? This organization is for helping poor and hungry children and these christians will use them as a bargaining chip to enforce their homophobia? I simply can't believe it. I know I give some fundies here a go for their money when it comes to discussing their version of christianity but I am serious in saying I can't believe this! I guess I was wrong and some, not all, evangelicals will stoop to the lowest rungs to make their point about their homophobia.
With the recent war on religion I can't say I blame them. These secular folks are trying to force their agenda so why not put other responsibilities on them as well. After all aren't there many atheists who will pick up the lack with their charitable giving? No wait atheists don't give that much. Oh well.
Of course you have stats and facts proving that atheists aren't charitable? Of course you have a REASON you think atheists aren't charitable? Of course you have proof that all christians are charitable?
You agreeing with them doesn't surprise me in the least I would expect no lees from you. - - - Updated - - - Honest ..? debatable! Consistent .. I'll give him that!
It is their money to do with as they see fit. If they desire to put their trust in an organization that they consider a Christian based charity, and that charity does something that they feel is un-Christian, then it is reasonable they would no longer support that organization. There are many other groups through which they could give money. Your bias of wanting to condemn them as pure homophobes seems to prevent you from seeing that it could be the upholding of all Christian principles at issue, not just the one.
Well, here are some sources that back me up: https://www.barna.org/barna-update/...atheists-and-agnostics-take-aim-at-christians Not only do religious people give more to charity they also volunteer more and that means for secular causes also: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/2010-11-15-column15_ST_N.htm No wonder atheism is such an unpopular worldview. Atheists aren't doing anything to help their image. Between being selfish and constantly attacking religious people no wonder no one trusts them. Hahahaha! BTW, using someone's post in your Sig without their permission is a violation of forum rules. Just thought I would be honest and let you know that.
Do unbelievers, particularly the gay activists, ever pause and ask themselves, "Should I overlook the fact that these evangelicals are opposed to gay marriage, because they do so much good for the poor, and donate my time and money to help them?" Isn't that what you're demanding of them? In the author's moral superiority, she claims that Christians should abandon their core principles regarding Biblical marriage and team up with the secularists for good causes. The point about divorce is a great one. If the objective is to preserve marriage, why isn't the church more vocal about divorce, or as vocal as they are on gay marriage. The answer is the obvious politicization of one over the other. By and large, the church isn't debating changing its doctrine regarding divorce, reflecting cultural changes. That isn't true about gay marriage. Many churches are changing. Most aren't changing, yet.
Where did I actually agree with them? I am only respecting their right to give or not give. It is a good thing they are not as selfish as atheists are.
Hahaha! I just gave sources and proved myself right yet you continue to stay focused on me. How lame. Are you so hurt you lost that you feel it necessary to do nothing but attack me? BTW, thanks for removing my unauthorized quote. It is good you are following forum rules now if only you will learn to use the quote function properly.
My aint you the sensitive one! I said that I give more to charity than you, a near absolute certainty and that is an attack, focused on you! Or no, that is not being sensitive, its being what you call honest.
You have no idea what I give to charity. I see your posts are still focused on me though. And sensitive? Me? Hahaha! On the contrary I am only attempting to keep the discussion on topic. Yanno, I am not the topic of this thread yet your posts are all about me....sad...can't you discuss the topic or do you realize you have been defeated?
Every post is you announcing how you defeated everyone in sight. i was going to watch for a bit and note how many times you were not being honest the way you claim but, all of your posts are dishonest and all are, more to the point, ugly. so i guess you win in the sense that you got me go back to ig for you.
Wow, more discussing me....sad... I made a claim, was challenged to back it up and I did. Now all you can do is discuss me. Nothing about the topic or what I posted. Now if you want to ignore me then please do. Your posts are worthless and empty attacks. I will continue to make thought provoking posts and you can continue to post whatever it is you post.
If charitable donations are so important, I assume you will be converting to Islam, as they give more per person to charity than Christians.
Denying hungry children food because some one has sex in a manner you don't approve of is just about the stupidest thing I think someone who claims to follow Jesus would do. Do you really think that is what Jesus would do? Or would Jesus say " let he who is without sin cast the first stone" , or in this case starve the first child ?
There are plenty of other organizations that assist the poor that they could give money to for the same end. If you are so offended, round up 2K people and tell them that you will all support the dropped kids if they switch back. They can do whatever they want with their money, as can you.
So as the christians pick up their toys to go home these kids go hungry. I'm pretty sure this is not what Jesus would do. It doesn't matter how this is spun the christians who offered their support didn't offer it to a bash the gays fund they offered it to hungry children. The children remain hungry whether or not gay folks are working for this organization or not. If you think other peoples misery should be used as a bargaining chip for some ones view on what is sexually permissible or not.. I'm pretty sure you missed the message of Jesus!
satan's great achievement (in a manner of speaking) is keeping all his minions blindly focused on inanities (like the manner people wear their hair or wield their genitals) while he trashes the joint.