Obama’s Watergate moment is here

By: DrJohn
10 Apr 14r


Back in June of 2013 Elijah Cummings declared the IRS investigation over, despite the continued stonewalling by the Obama administration:

Based upon everything I’ve seen, the case is solved. If it were me, I would wrap this case up and move on, to be frank with you. The IG made some recommendations, those recommendations are being adopted by the IRS, we’ve got a new commissioner in, acting commissioner in, Danny Werfel is doing a great job, I think we’re in great shape.​

Last month all of the democrat members of the House Oversight Committee demanded Darryl Issa end the IRS investigation.

Now we know why, and why the next public word out of Cummings’ mouth will be “racism.”

Cummings pushed the IRS to harass True the Vote.

Today Issa released information about communications between the IRS and Cummings vis-à-vis True the Vote:

Issa said records obtained last week from the IRS show communications from the office of ranking member Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., about True the Vote, a Texas-based, non-profit conservative group that aims to prevent voter fraud.

The communications at one point involved Lois Lerner, the ex-IRS official whom Issa’s panel is poised to hold in contempt of Congress on Thursday for refusing to provide testimony about her involvement in targeting conservative groups.

“The IRS and the Oversight Minority made numerous requests for virtually identical information from True the Vote, raising concerns that the IRS improperly shared protected taxpayer information with Rep. Cummings’ staff,” a statement from the Oversight panel reads.

According to Issa, Cummings and his staff sought “copies of all training materials used for volunteers, affiliates, or other entities,” from True the Vote.

Five days after the Cummings inquiry, the IRS sent True the Vote an email requesting “a copy of [True the Vote’s] volunteer registration form,” “… the process you use to assign volunteers,” “how you keep your volunteers in teams,” and “how your volunteers are deployed … following the training they receive by you.”

Issa said Cummings and his office asked for more information in January 2013 about True the Vote, this time getting Lerner involved.

At one point, an email revealed, Lerner asked her deputy, “Did we find anything?”

When the deputy said she had not received any new information, Lerner responded, “thanks – check tomorrow please.”

Issa said Cummings had previously denied asking the IRS about True the Vote.
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Next thing you know, True the Vote’s Engelbrecht is being harassed by the IRS:

Nonetheless, Engelbrecht’s True the Vote received a letter from the IRS with inquiries that agency officials have testified were unprecedented in scope. Cummings’s letter contained questions that closely mirrored those posed by the IRS, and Issa details them in his letter, strongly implying that one was modeled on the other.

In a February hearing, True the Vote’s lawyer, Cleta Mitchell, raised the prospect that the minority staff had exchanged information with the IRS. “We want to get to the bottom of how these coincidences happened,” Mitchell said, “and we’re trying to figure out whether any — if there was any staff on this committee that might have been involved in putting True the Vote on the radar screen of some of these federal agencies.” Cummings said in response that Mitchell’s tacit allegation was “absolutely incorrect and not true.”

“Although you have previously denied that your staff made inquiries to the IRS about conservative organization True the Vote that may have led to additional agency scrutiny, communication records between your staff and IRS officials – which you did not disclose to Majority Members or staff – indicates otherwise,” Issa said. “As the Committee is scheduled to consider a resolution holding Ms. Lerner, a participant in responding to your communications that you failed to disclose, in contempt of Congress, you have an obligation to fully explain your staff’s undisclosed contacts with the IRS.”
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And not just the IRS. There’s more here and here. Cummings and the IRS and the BATF all but raped Engelbrecht. This was a real war on a woman. This was the very definition of persecution. Since when does your Congressman pay you a personal visit to harass you?

In an email Lois Lerner also suggested the possibility of her getting a job with the DC office of Obama’s Organizing for Action. It’s conjectured that it might have been a joke. Obama also “joked” about using the IRS to audit his enemies.

Lois Lerner has been referred to the Justice Department for prosecution. Make no mistake, this is a Watergate moment.

The legitimacy of the Obama Presidency now rests on the actions of Eric Holder. If he claims the “vast discretion” he spoke of and chooses not to pursue the Lerner referral, it’s over.

It would be time for a Special Prosecutor.

Or, failing that, a rebellion.

Fortunately, the House does not rule out arresting Lerner if the Department of Injustice does not. Criminal acts have been committed and the people’s trust in a government institution has been violated and faith been destroyed.

Eric Holder is without the least shred of integrity. He is thoroughly dishonest. He was put in place to do one thing and that is to protect his boss’s ass from the law. Two years ago I put up a post about the Republican (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s who voted to confirm this POS. You can see the list here. As much as your anger should be directed at Obama and Holder, it should also be aimed at those idiots. I knew this was coming and they should have. We’re looking at a full blown Constitutional crisis. Nixon had Attorneys General with a conscience. Not so with the man who freed Marc Rich and the FALN terrorists. Conscience has no purchase of Eric Holder and neither does the law.

UPDATE

Oversight Committee votes to find Lerner in contempt

Source:
http://floppingaces.net/2014/04/09/obamas-watergate-moment-is-here/

I continue to wonder why the honorable Elijah Cummings would lie about contact Lois Lerner without notifying the committee? Then stonewall the investigation.​

 

Did you think this bogus story gains credibility just because you found it on another obscure right wing blog?

It's not against the law for a Congressman or anyone else to see some organization's Form 990.

And, on that simple fact, this whole meme founders.

 

I'll try...but if I forget....

somebody keep bumping this OP every few weeks for the next 2 years, 9 months, and 10 days....

right up to January 20th, 2017 at noon when President Obama DOES leave office.

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If you can't trust "DrJohn" at "flopping graces-dot-net"...who can you trust?

 

Shhhh, dont look now but the investigation is going full steam ahead... regardless of your wishing it would go away.

 

Really? Watch this...

SMW, do you believe that President Barack Obama will be forced to resign or be impeached....and leave office before completing his 2nd term on January 20th, 2017?

 

Is that a disingenuous question or are you asserting that the Alinskyite in Chief is guilty of instigating and/or participating in the New McCarthyites' political witch hunt at the IRS?

If so, there's a committee in Washington that would like to know what you know, Cap'n.

 

1. I'm seeing if SMW is as "optimistic" about this being "Obama's Watergate"...as she SEEMS to be indicating.

2. If anybody should go before the Committee it should be Wehrwolven or his source "Dr John of flopping aces".....who seem SURE that they have evidence for a criminal and/or impeachment prosecution.

Yet...."oddly"....I don't think either will be heading to Capital Hill.

 

It is when you deny doing so as means to obstruct an investigation

 

So Cummings denied doing something that was LEGAL...and that "obstructed an investigation"?!?!!?!!?!?

 

What's wrong with Saul Alinsky? He wasn't a criminal. He paid taxes. He wasn't a socialist.

What is the problem?

 

and of course, you would be saying the exact same thing if a liberal were being targeted by Conservatives in the IRS (and I am sure there ARE a few there)

please

You liberals would like to silence all Conservatives and you couldn't care less what means u use to do so. Why is that?

Could it be that you have no integrity? You have no qualms about lying and breaking the Constitution. With liberals, it is The End Justifies the Means

despicable

 

Tying with George Soros, Saul Alinsky is the "Emmanuel Goldstein" of the Right-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Goldstein

It's how Talk Radio fires them up for the "Two Minute Hate".

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Curious...ever read the Bible verse Titus 3:2?

 

Given the absurd, destructive and illegal activities this President and his AG have already done, America would be foolish and suicidal if it didn't take steps to remove Obama and Holder both before they're in their final 6-12 months.

We all saw the abuses and crimes committed by Bill Clinton in his final months, with things like the pardons-for-hire including that of Marc Rich financial fugitive, Linda Evans and Susan Rosenberg of the weather underground, Dan Rostenkowski, and even his own brother on drug charges.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardon_controversy

God only knows just how corrupt the Obama / Holder list would be, if he's not taken down afore time.

Additionally, there is much good to be done for the country by setting a precedent of accountability for crimes while in office.

We should have impeached and removed from office Obama and Holder back in 2011.

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I agree with your post, as usual.

But PLEASE, stop using that bolded, dark black smaller font in between. Bolding it is ok, but using bigger and/or different font. It's so hard to look at and read, I didn't even read it. I just know that I pretty much always agree with you.

 

I would assume that Alinsky is worse, unless Soros is 100% in agreement with the manipulative tactics written down by Alinsky.

Alinsky's behavior in writing a book on how to manipulate people is a disgrace. It's no wonder that it's mainly the Left who is interested in it.

 

Calm down, GC. Try to live for the moment. You've got a Dem majority in the Senate, a Pres in the WH, Obamacare is the law of the land and your man has 2-1/2 more years to play president. What more do you want, dude? Why aren't you frolicking in a meadow someplace?

Far as Obama's impeachment goes... I used to think there's no way he'd ever be impeached because he's the first black president. But I'm beginning to wonder how much longer 'they' can cover up for him before nobody can save him from impeachment. 2-1/2 yrs in a long time.

Better enjoy it while you can. JIC this 'smidgen' of a scandal ends up being your hero's Watergate.

 

First it was Fast & Furious Gate , Solyndragate, Benghazigate, IRSgate, that failed so it went back to Benghazigate, now that failed, now it's back to IRSgate.

You guys cry too much. If there's a serious issue the American people will respond, but just continually crying wolf is not going to help your cause.

 

Wow, so how many Watergate moments has Obama had now? The Rethuglicans remind me of the boy who cried wolf

 

It may sound like crying wolf to you, but we're merely commenting on current events. I'm sure you would prefer the topic go away, but I'm afraid you're stuck with it.

Thx for the list. Exactly what I was referring to earlier. Obama already has SEVERAL potentially damaging 'events' hanging UNresolved over his head. A bad outcome on this IRS thing could put all those investigations back into overdrive.

We'll see.

Bless your hearts... I can tell you're worried.

 

If I were full of it...I could easilly characterize Dale Carnegie's old book "How to Win Freinds and Inflence People" as disgracefully manipulative.

I've still NOT been given one legitimate reason to dissapprove of Saul Alinsky. I keep hearing I should!, but exactly what did he do?

Point out an example, and I'll jump over to your side.

 

By this time...and I mean the time between when stories broke, and admissions of wrong doing lead to demise.....Woodward and Bernstein, and the rest of the media and congress were scratching their heads, on both sides. Barry Goldwater turned on Nixon, and everybody was worried.

With the IRS and Benghazi things, they have still not ven made it out of the right wing media bubble.

This isn't Watergate...it's reinforcement of the base.

 

Ahhh, but we've yet to hit the period of admissions. Could it be because our friends in the media aren't interested in looking very hard?

Oh, BTW... just heard Sebelius resigned. Speaking of a house of cards coming down.

 

Liberal organizations are also looked at by the IRS, ANY organization seeking tax exempt status gets looked at. So much for that WHINE.

 

Yeah, you really are trying to see how many right wing code words you can jam into a single sentance, aren't you????

 

How utterly ridiculous!

The only people around these days that routinely reference Saul Alinsky are wingnuts.

Saul was dead and gone in 1975 and nearly entirely forgotten. I had to look him up the first time the right wingers started yelling about "Alinsky tactics".

Of course, the real irony is that not one of the wingnuts who routinely scream Alinsky's name, had ever heard of them before the man on their AM radio started with this particular code work. I doubt that one in a thousand right wingers could even tell you what the phrase really means, but they all shout it like Pavlov's dogs.