Is there any way America can improve its image in the world?

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  1. letshavelunch

    letshavelunch Banned

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    Alas the Wall Street nobility create history. And it is far from noble.

    There are other vermin who have the same aspirational aims.
     
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    Every career-maker or fortune maker is doomed to seek more money and fame. Look around or look at the mirror to find a guy who is far from being noble and is a danger for the whole world if given a possibility to make history. More than a half of registered in the forum americans in the place of Obama would already start a nuclear war... So Wall Street guys are not the worst guys in the world. At all.
     
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    Get yourself another Chinese translator.
     
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    Yazverg Well-Known Member

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    Mine was mostly influenced by an international version. It has been criticized a lot recently, but none of the critics made anything better. :) Once something better can be advised as easily I might change the translator.
     
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    Whatever helps you make sense. I welcome whatever improvements you see fit to make. :love:
     
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    Of course, we haven't mention America's attempt to dominate the world through the NSA's surveillance of the internet. That's a sure-fire way to look as popular as Hitler.

    Two dozen countries headed by Brazil and Germany are proposing a UN resolution to stop the NSA nonsense. Both Germany and Brazil are looking at technological ways of blocking American surveillance of the privacy of their citizens on the internet.

    America has declared a virtual war on the world. And the world is fighting back. Americans are as popular internationally as fleas on a dog.

    Now, about that image? Ah, course, I forgot. You don't care. :ignore:
     
  7. martin76

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    I think it's impossible to improve the image.. All countries have dominated the world have been respected, feared and envied. America dominates the world, that´s the reason because many people are antiamerican because they envy the USA´s success... It has always happened in the past...in XIX century was Britain (Perfidious Albion), in XVI century was Spain (Black Legend), in the seventies was Soviet Union (the red devils), now It is USA... in 2080 maybe it´s China. who knows?

    Nobody was antiamerican in 1830... While the U.S. is the greatest power on earth, there will be envied and like consequence, the anti-Americanism.
     
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    I agree it's probably impossible. But I do not agree it arises from envy.

    Many nations merely pity the Americans.
     
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    letshavelunch

    Do you think is "pity"? I dont think so, the antiamericanism begun with the rise of american power and the cold war...No antiamericanism in 1820, 1920 or 1940,, but in 1950...
    Europe had many chances to destroy the USA ...(Europe didn´t want to destroy the USA). There were two major possibilities:
    1776-1783: it would have sufficed that Spain had agreed to the request of King George III of Alliance to have destroyed the U.S. at the time of his birth. La Armada Real together Royal navy mean not french help to American, not money, and the attack from the West and South (Spaniards) and from East and Nort (British)... not american victory at all.
    1861 - 1865: If Great Britain would intervened on behalf of the South side, sending arms, provisions and especially the Royal Navy...it means end of South harbours blockade .. the end of plan Anaconda ... and so, The confederate victory and end the U.S. as we know it today ..

    Like you can see... antiamericanism begun later, many years after Appomatox.. I think
     
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    I'm sorry but I've heard this 'envy' argument too many times and each time I ask, 'what am I supposed to be envious of', I hear the same thing. Silence.
    When it comes down to it there are few things less enviable than a serially belligerent nation, nor one with a jaw-droppingly and almost unimaginably huge national debt-and that is in no way a measure of success. Then there's the chest-beating arrogance and pompousness of the 'my country right or wrong' version of 'patriotism'. Bragging-especially when there's really nothing to brag about-is guaranteed to antagonise, but when you've had exceptionalism brainwashed into you from birth it's hardly surprising that it happens-and Americans wonder why we laugh at them in Europe when they come here and start throwing their (considerable) weight around, demanding this and that and stamping their petualant feet when they get told to behave!
    A little more dignity, decorum, self-restraint and introspection, and a little less meaningless and infantile flag-waving might go some way to improving America's image.
    Then again there are many who will say, 'why should we care?'. And therein lies the basic problem.
     
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    I think "envy" is only because it is the most powerful country in the world.. because USA expands its culture, its way of life, their political influence for the planet...I must admit that compared to other countries that have ruled the world .. American dominance is less aggresive...Of course, Also I think mostly american are childish, arrogant and uneducated .. but those Americans rebuilt Western Europe twice.. without USA... can you imagine the level of life in Britain, Germany, Low Countries, France etc?

    USA is not very aggressive country... Britain, France, Spain, Netherlands, Turkey, Russia etc ...had more Wars in 30 years that USA in 200...

    However I agree with you in this: A little more dignity, decorum, self-restraint and introspection, and a little less meaningless and infantile flag-waving

    But I think that the lack of dignity, decorunt, self-restraint, instrospection and the abundance of meaningless and infantilsm came from the time we are living...There was a time than a captain was the last man to leave a ship... nowadays are the first!!!!!! Where´s the personal courage and dignity? I think both were lost in any place between the Flandes muds!

    Not good times for gallantry.
     
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    I'm in favor of eliminating all Socialists and Communists.

    If we do that, the opinion of Americans overseas will certainly improve dramatically, as all those handwringing anti-American lefties from overseas with a drastically inflated self-opinion will end, as will their methane expulsions.

    We'll also end the largest threat to global climate change simultaneously. This is change you can believe in.
     
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    Improve america's image? I don't think that's difficult at all, quite a simple task: first don't start any more foreign wars, second try to diminish your gun culture by applying stricter rules so no more idiots owning arsenals, third punish violent cops so they can't bully people and we see no more cops beating people on youtube, and third stop driving immense cars which consume tons of gasoline and pollute the air... these things alone will make a superb image out of you.
     
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    Many countries don't have an accurate or even the right perception of America as it is so what is there to improve?
     
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    Yeah, and give them billions of dollars in foreign aid while they shoot us the finger and laugh at us behind our back!
     
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    Kill the troll

    it is not question to star foreign wars... any European country started more "foreing wars" in 50 years than USA in 250 years...Portugal, for example, had more foreign wars than USA... from Afonso de Albuquerque´s campaigns in South Africa, Ormutz, India, Malasya etc etc to the las wars in sixties and seventies... Angola, Mozambique, Guinea etc... and however I don´t know nobody says "I´m antiPortuguese"....Can you imagine anybody to define to himself like "antidanish"... and Denmark fought in more wars than USA....

    Not, It is not question "to star foreign wars".. it´s question about "Power"... USA is the "Empire"... nowadays.. and It´s not question about "right" or "left"... America is always antiamerican...they can´t forgive the USA success...starting with the name: America... America is Argentine, Bolivia, Honduras, Cuba, Panama, Peru, Chili...not only "USA".. in fact USA is the last place in America to be named "America"... however the last place is now the first..."America lack of relation with USA"... The name of an undistinguished italian sailor in service of the Spanish Crown (Firenze, italy, 1454 - Seville, Spain, 1512)... nothing more. And nowadays...when you say "America"... Are you thinking in "Venezuela"? Maybe in Puerto Rico?

    Many countries love guns...and nobody hate them: Afghanistan, Pakistan, for example. etc

    U.S. police generally is corrupt .. but like other American police: Mexico, Ecuador etc ... I think police - Bribe -American Continent are synonymous (save Canada, Cuba and Brazil, I think).

    However nobody hate Mexican or ecuatorian...
    Not more pollute the air than China... And I don´t know many people say "I am Antichinese...."

    It is only question of POWER. When the U.S. fall (and they will fall like all powers from the time of Egypt and Summer) and they wil become in a group of small states like New Zealand or like Jamaica ... nobody will hate the U.S., no matter if they continue making wars (such as Portugal), they have corrupt cops (like Ecuador) and polluting the air (like India) ....

    Regads
     
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    We can ignore other countries and only improve ourselves to be the best, strongest country in the world. Then countries will want to emulate us.
     
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    This is the 21st century. Only extremist Muslim and African countries approach the barbarity of past empires. (And the British were pretty enlightened compared to most others.)

    Since WW2 and the creation of the UN there has been a raising of the standards of behaviour expected of civilised countries. America has not reached those standards. In fact, it has often been exposed for violating them.

    And there is no refuge from harsh criticism in what you kindly call its "culture". And that I call lazy propaganda. But, I have to admit, that there are many millions so lazy as to absorb this rubbish culture in what passes for their minds. Possibly because they have never been exposed to anything better.
     
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    This is the 21st century. Only extremist Muslim and African countries approach the barbarity of past empires. (And the British were pretty enlightened compared to most others.)

    Since WW2 and the creation of the UN there has been a raising of the standards of behaviour expected of civilised countries. America has not reached those standards. In fact, it has often been exposed for violating them.

    And there is no refuge from harsh criticism in what you kindly call its "culture". And that I call lazy propaganda. But, I have to admit, that there are many millions so lazy as to absorb this rubbish culture in what passes for their minds. Possibly because they have never been exposed to anything better.
     
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    We can, as soon as we figure out who is and who is not, a "domestic terrorist"
     
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    Much probably america will see it's power reduced over the forthcoming years, even now they are cutting down expenditures to survive. Anyway i don't hate america, they helped us europeans driving back nazis and to rebuild everything, they contributed a lot to the world's overall technology. It's just that from the so called " light " of the western world we dont' t like to see such avoidable errors like letting people own arsenals in their houses, psycho cops and people traveling with enormous cars ( i mean, the average european engine is the 1.9 turbodiesel, which can travel 14/15 km/l, the average american engine is 3.5 petrol which can do max 6-7 km/l, that's gross ).

    When people want to talk bad about america, they often resort to these arguments, because they are true, so why not improve those weak spots?
     
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    LOL! This coming from someone from the country that produced Adolf Hitler just within the last century. :roflol:
     
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    Did you hear that Hitler died with his regime in 1945? About the time the US started out on its quest for world domination.
     
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    Uggh, as an American, i agree with this guy. Germany is actually a nice place now. And we've started so many senseless wars, it's incredible.
     
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    Apparently this woman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diane_Francis) is proposing a merger between Canada and the US, speaking piously of "shared values" and, more to her point (which appears to have a US perspective), the massive untapped resources that Canada has.

    Perhaps it might help to improve America's image (many Yanks travel wearing maple leaves on their luggage to avoid the opprobrium Americans attract) but the notion of "shared values" is an absurdity. Canada has a totally different and far more successful system of government and social organization. The last thing they would want is to have it contaminated by Americans.

    Nor do I imagine would they want US corporates raping their resources.
     

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