Can unmarried Christians have oral?

Cupid Dave will come here and waffle his head off now.

Say ... maybe he experiences the ritual recitation of his mantras as a form of torture bondage?

 

LOL

Check what the 1.3 billion muslims say in this regard.
They read the Bible and saw the same God which was behind their Sharia.

 

I believe GC was referring to the Christian perspective. ie, does your bible speak negatively of unmarrieds having recreational sex?

 

He forbid them to promote sexual promiscuity by acts and discussion because it creates Welfare and Criminal kids.

 

The muslim Koran was created from and about the Bible, but the Christian repression of sexual promiscuity by outlawing even open discussion of sex is directed at the same goal.

GC was just saying that sex with women who had come under the control of patriarchs as wives or concubines was OK, which is like we see in Islam, too.
The Hebrew patriarchs and the muslim patriarchs behaved the same way.

 

your god is VERY down on kids, eh? he's like the cranky old man on your street who goes ape(*)(*)(*)(*)e when neighbourhood kids have the audacity to set foot on his carefully manicured lawn. I can see your beardy sky man waving his crook and shouting at the evil babies

 

You people who support the present social attitudes are not different from those people who watched one empire fall after the next when the Welfare ran out, depression arrived, patriarchs next country over invaded, or a tyrant arose to "save" the community:


Note what Isaiah said:

Isa. 3:16 Moreover the LORD saith, Because the daughters of Zion are
haughty, and walk with stretched forth necks and wanton eyes, walking
and mincing as they go, and making a tinkling with their feet:

Isa. 3:17 Therefore the Lord will smite with a scab the crown of the
head of the daughters of Zion, and the LORD will discover their secret
parts.

Isa. 3:18 In that day the Lord will take away the bravery of their
tinkling ornaments about their feet, and their cauls, and their round
tires like the moon,

Isa. 3:19 The chains, and the bracelets, and the mufflers,

Isa. 3:20 The bonnets, and the ornaments of the legs, and the
headbands, and the tablets, and the earrings,

Isa. 3:21 The rings, and nose jewels,

Isa. 3:22 The changeable suits of apparel, and the mantles, and the
wimples, and the crisping pins,

Isa. 3:23 The glasses, and the fine linen, and the hoods, and the
veils.

Isa. 3:24 And it shall come to pass, that instead of sweet smell there shall be stink; and instead of a girdle a rent; and instead of well sethair baldness; and instead of a stomacher a girding of sackcloth; and burning instead of beauty.

Isa. 3:25 Thy men shall fall by the sword, and thy mighty in the war.

 

sorry, how does that address the point? ie, why did god give us a crazy sex drive (and gayness), but gets cross when we act on it?

 

Instead of just saying "nuh-huh"....quote the Bible telling un-married people not to engage in oral sex or any non-reproductive sex.

 

Oral sex is a modern phenomenon; simply because modern sanitation makes it possible. You know, soap, hot shower, oils, lotions, perfumes, deodorant.

 

I would dispute this. Surely homosexuality is not a new phenomenon. There is no way they can have issue. Therefore non-reproductive sex is not a modern invention.

 

Of course non-christians pretend to know better but I prefer opinion of Jesus rather than someone elses.

"Adultery

27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’[e] 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell."

Does it sound clear enough?

 

ALL God's Chillin' can have [receive...provide...enjoy] oral!!!

 

So if you're a straight male and you even LOOK at a woman you're not married to and think she's sexually attractive......you're committing a sin?

 

The question was " can unmarried Christians have oral sex". I intimated that modern sanitation and hygiene make it possible and popular.
You went to "homo sex" to dispute me - I didn't say anything about homo sex. That has always been "dirty" and a "perversion".
It is perversion by definition, and dirty by fact. Feces is dirty.

No man wants to give a smelly vagina oral, nor does a woman want to stick a nasty smelling penis in her mouth.
But, if the equipment is clean and smells good...........

 

Really? No one knew how to bathe until now? This is your proof? The earliest mention of soap comes from 2800 BCE. 5000 years ago. I'm sure there were other ways to get clean before then.

The reason I brought up homosex is that nonreproductive sex techniques are part of their repertoire by necessity. There is nothing they do that a hetero couple couldn't.

BTW, why is oral between homosexuals dirty while oral between heterosexuals not? The mechanics are the same.

 

It is very clear what Jesus is saying, even if you did not know that Greek word translated as "woman" could also be translated as wife.

Jesus is talking about Adultery. Adultery is not possible without involvement of a married woman.

To claim that Jesus did not know the Jewish meaning of Adultery is abject silliness.

From the Jewish Encylopedia http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/865-adultery

Jesus is not talking about "pre-marital sex" between folks who are not married.

Jesus is emphasizing that Lusting after a married woman is a bad thought and you should guard yourself against such thoughts.

I am not a "non-Christian" but I am not stupid enough to think that being a "non Christian" has anything to do with correct interpretation of Scripture. In this case, given the term Adultery is from a Jewish Book written in the Jewish language and that Jesus was a Jew as were all the disciples, it is pretty safe to say that the Jews, rather than the Christians are the ones to look to for a correct interpretation of Adultery.

In general "Christians" have a far better understanding of spoon fed man made dogma than the message of Jesus.

 

Right. The usage of the very word 'sexy' if told of a specific person is already a sin. But it doesn't say that it is impossible to save once sinned or that a sin of sexual insanity doesn't take something from the like of sinners here. In most cases the price of such an innocent sin is relationship in the family and love.

 

Not only a woman and not only in Greek. 'Man' still has a meaning of husband in lots of european languages including russian. So if you want to correct Jesus's words to your own specific beliefs you can also use it as an arguement.

Mmmm And if a married man is making an adultery with a woman that has never been someone's wife? And if a guy from the street seduces your daughter tonight to go to another chick already tomorrow he is doing the right thing?

That's what I meant. Contemporary media has brought up a class of undereducated people with the beliefs that they are good because they do everything right. And if someone behaves differently then he can give any reasons or proofs, but he is dfinetely bad and wrong. What a convinient lie for the masses of people who have never read anything but another media lies in a totalitarian state... I now start to understand how well and tight you are controlled by a group of families.

 

If the woman is not married it is not "Adultery". If my daughter is an adult and she has consensual sex with another man that is her choice. What I think of her actions does not change the fact that Jesus does not condemn it.

I am not sure what the media has to do with scripture ? The big lie is that when evangelicals claim that Adultery and all premarital sex are on in the same.