Do you believe in evolution?

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  1. verystormy

    verystormy Active Member

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    If not why not?
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    It's not something you believe in, it's reality.

    I accept it mainly because it has been proven through the fossil record.
     
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    Maybe a more interesting question is can species devolve?
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Genesis pretty much matches Evolution in the way the Bible explains the Creation, but the church people were all raised to oppose the Science starting from the Scopes Trials.

    They still ignore what Genesis ACTUALLY says, but the day is coming when they will all agree with Evolution.
     
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    In other words, you have examined the Facts from Science and become convinced they are True.
    Then you accept this as Reality.

    Your faith in Truth has saved you from living in the falsehood of fantasy, which is the place for the insane.
     
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    No, I do NOT!
    We humans are in no way naturally adapted to life on this planet.
    We have lived, how many years in cold climates and yet have not grown protective body hair. We have tender feet and our hands do not have claws to use in protection or food gathering - as in killing animals or digging up root crops......and much more.
    True evolution is always happens in terms of survival.
     
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    Yes! Airplanes and Automobiles have shown vast improvements through their evolutionary history.
     
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    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I accept evolution the same way I accept gravity.
    Belief is for the religious.
     
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    No...a species is always in it's optimum form for it's environment, if the environment changes it will change...

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    You haven't ever studied this at all have you....
     
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    I know evolution is a fact. "Belief" implies something different than actual knowledge.
     
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    You mean perhaps if fish species that have adapted to dark underwater cave environments and begin flourishing say.. start loosing eyes in their offspring? like this?

    http://icb.oxfordjournals.org/content/43/4/531.long

    As you can see, a full sound explanation of why and how is still in the works, but it has happened, though I doubt it's ever been referred to scientifically as devolving as there is no optimal goal in the system.


    eta:forgot referenced quote
     
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    Not really - there are certain things need to happen to allow for evolution to occur. Survival is not one of them
     
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    Yes, I do. You can still 'believe' something even though it's been established beyond reasonable doubt.
     
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    Are you saying that people are dying from the cold in cold climates in statistically significant numbers? I think we've evolved brains to make and put on clothes instead. I've lived in some fairly cold places, and I've never died, not even a little bit. The same goes for digging and fighting, we've got versatile hands that can use tools, which is a lot more efficient than having claws.
     
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    So a giraffe growing a longer neck so it could eat from the trees had nothing to do with survival? Interesting.
     
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    Keep not using your brain like that and your future offspring line may well start developing claws :)
     
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    Survival to reproduction is paramount. Species that don't manage to reproduce don't much contribute to success of a line.
     
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    by definition, evolution is always progress. there is no such thing as de-evolution.
    if a species evolves claws and then eventually loses them, it was not a devolving, but an adaptive evolution towards the forward
     
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    absolutely, evolution is fact, the history of that evolution though is theory, for all we know life evolved elsewhere and then came here and evolved some more

    is this our future?

    http://www.videobash.com/video_show/idiocracy-intro-245281

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    We don't have fur to live in cold climates because we gradually phased it out to keep the two types of lice located in two easy to clean areas after the advent of the usage of tools.

    Holy crap some people really post before they know what they're talking about.
     
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    Not all giraffes grew long necks

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okapi

    The long neck of a giraffe creates more issues than it solves. If I was a betting man I would put a lazy fiver on the whole thing being a sexual dominance thing
     
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    Then how can you conclude that the other evidences of evolutionary theory were not the same?
     
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    Not really - Otherwise no line of creatures in history would be extinct. What you are trying to do is ascribe propose to evolution. It has none, it simply occurs when the circumstances are right

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    I am not sure I understand the question you are asking
     
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    But you do believe that in the beginning, with a Big Bang, the Heavens and the Earth were formed?
    Right?

    And you might not know that visible light did NOT occur until 4 million years later, as the Stars formed.

    That the Bible corresponds with Evolution can be seen if properly read and analyzed.
     
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    Hmmmm,...
    Genesis seems right and agrees with Science.

    It was right about the absence of light in the beginning...

    Gen. 1:3 And (Father Nature, Reality), “God, ” said, Let there be light: and there was light.

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    Note the Dark Age

    Gen. 1:4 And (Father Nature, Reality), “God, ” saw the light, that it was good: and (Father Nature, Reality), “God, ” divided the light from the darkness (as the hot molten Earth solidified and revolved).

    Gen. 1:5 And (Father Nature, Reality), “God, ” called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night.
     
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