If the Jesus people have the same Spirit in them that wrote the bible

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  1. badlandsleprechaun

    badlandsleprechaun Banned

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    Why don't they write some new books for their bible?

    I asked that to someone once, and they said "there is a curse on anyone who adds anything to the bible".
    Now granted, there is a verse in the last book and last chapter of Revelations that curses anyone who tampers with "that book", it certainly didn't refer to the bible because Revelation was written about 100 AD, and the bible over 200 years later.

    So if the bible was written by the same spirit in jesus people, why don't they update it and put some new writings in there?

    The answer is "because the roman emperor produced the bible, bound in leather, and demanded that nothing new be added.

    So, the guy who produced the bible "told God to shut up".

    So if the jesus people have the same bible writing spirit, then they ought to write some new stuff and tell us what God has to say nowadays.

    Could you just imagine reading a Book Of Oral Roberts, or Book of Pat Robertson, or Benny Hinn? hahahaha

    Surely Billy Graham, the great holy spirit teacher, out to be able to write a new book for that bible. They all pretend to speak for God anyway, put it in the bible. Surely God still lives and has something to say.
     
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    MrConservative Well-Known Member

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    The Bible was written by Jews and later Christians. Paul may have been a Roman citizen, but he was also a Jew until he converted.

    Are Homo sapiens all that different 2000 years later. We don't need to add anything more because what's in the bible is what we need for salvation.

    Also, the Roman Empire had no idea which of the books should go in the Bible. That was up to the Bishops.
     
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    The bible wasn't written by jews and later Christians. The gospels were written by believers, and the writings attributed to Paul are heavily edited writings by whoever. Writings didn't get notorized back them.
    As for what went into the bible goes, the bishops in rome were "simonists" - they paid money for their bishophood. Lots of hanky panky went on, such as a number of murders the night before they voted on a trinity.
    The emperor had the version of the bible edited several times, and then sent it to Alexandria for more editing.
    Also, for 300 years after Christ, gthe romans murdered believers and stole their scriptures after searching for them, and they eventually destroyed them. They wanted the scriptures for the same reason simon magus wanted Holy Spirit POWER. They wanted the power and therefore needed to kill the believers and try to find out how they got that power, and they searched the scriptures searching for the secret to obtaining that power. Same as every jesus preacher today. They all want power , because power means money. And everybody loves a miracle worker.

    Constantine was thought to be a Christian because it was alleged many years after his death that he saw a cross in the sky at millvale bridge battle.

    The cross was a mithra symbol, and pagan soldiers worshipped mithra before battle and carried the mithra cross.

    And as far as the bible having all you need for salvation, I will remind you that the NAME of God is YAH, and the name of his son is Yahushua, and his name is his testimony and required for a crown of life. He said "because you have kept my name and my testimony, you will receive a crown of life".
    The name of YAH and the name of Yahushua was taken out of the bible, so the bible has nothing needed for salvation.

    What does "YAH IS SALVATION" MEAN TO YOU? THAT JESUS IS SALVATION? AND DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT OF YAH AND YAHUSHUA WOULD REALLY COME IN THE NAME OF JESUS? AND DO LYING SIGNS AND WONDERS, AND FAKE MIRACLES, AND GIVE LYING WORDS OF KNOWLEDGE?

    Peter called Yahushua by his name, and said "there is NO OTHER NAME given to men under heaven whereby we must be saved".
    jesus is "ANOTHER NAME". The important thing about the name of Yahushua is that it contains the name of God, and a promise of salvation.
    the name jesus does NOT.

    YAHUSHUA TOLD HIS DISCIPLES THAT THEY WOULD BE HATED FOR HIS "NAME" SAKE. AND THE DISCIPLES WERE SEVERLY BEATEN AND STERNLY WARNED NOT TO PREACH, TEACH, NOR DO ANY MORE MIRACLES IN THE NAME OF YAHUSHUA OF NAZARETH.

    SATAN CAN'T PREVAIL AGAINST YAH OR YAHUSHUA, SO HE TAKES THEIR NAME FROM YOUR LIPS, AND SOON IT IS GONE FROM YOUR HEART AND MIND. "PEOPLE WORSHIP ME WITH THEIR LIPS, BUT THEIR HEARTS ARE FAR FROM ME".
     
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    someone tried but thus far the world's understanding of the aerodynamics of pasta keeps it from flying in religious circles. Your ignorance of the history of the Bible is otherwise self-evident, if for no reason, then because your apparent belief that there exists today a single version of the Bible and that it was decreed so and that the Old testament was not in existence until a politician ordered its creation. Things have been added to the Bible since 200AD. More might be added to the Bible in the future. The New Testament to the Bible started as a compilation of circulated letters between churches beginning in about 50AD. Some of the letters and writings that were circulating were removed or not added but also still exist today as the Lost Gospels.
     
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    The letters and writing were circulating in Judea and Palestine, The roman bible producers were the ones who hunted the believers down and murdered them and stole their scriptures. Many fake letters from Paul were being circulated as well, the Pauline books became so after it was decided that writing style would be the rule. But forgeries and forgers practice style to sell their wares.

    My question was simple, and I've already shown that the bible doesn't have anything sufficient for salvation, as Yahushua said , "search the scriptures, for in them you think you have salvation". Show me the name of YAH, and Yahushua, and since we are to be baptized in the "NAME" OF THE FATHER , SON, AND HOLY SPIRIT, SHOW ME THE NAME OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, YAHUYAH IN THERE TOO.
    The name of Yahushua means, YAH is Salvation, if you know that, how can you endorse the bible as valid.?
     
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    Imnotreallyhere Well-Known Member Donor

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    Three words for you, Badlandsleprechaun: Book of Mormon. Since the LDS have the most recent holy book, does that make them the religion to follow?
     
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    I don't do religion. Religion is merely a tool for hustlers too lazy to work for a living, to live off the money of nitwits.

    Mormon was founded by a guy who said he met with "Jesus and The Father". [They must have forgot their names].

    He said he had golden tablets which seem to have disappeared.

    Yahushua said "search the scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life". That's what I'd say to Christians. Mormon or not.

    AND THATS WHY I SAY THAT IT IS "IMPOSSIBLE" FOR A JESUS SATAN OR ANY BIBLE THUMPER TO GIVE A GOOD ACCOUNT OF THEIR FAITH - THE HOPE THAT IS WITHIN THEM.

    I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THEY HAVE TO USE LIES TO GIVE AN ACCOUNT, SO WHO IS THEIR GOD?
     
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    They do

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catechism
     
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    Do you believe in Truth, as an ideal and goal for men to seek and follow?
     
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    Of course, that's why I don't buy into the jesus lie, sent by YAH, to those he appoints for destruction.

    Religion is about hustlers pretending to know something, and pretending to have some power, wisdom, word of knowledge, and so on. Religion has less to do with truth, and more to do with money. The early Christian church practiced simony [paying money for bishophood], and those jokers lied about what was in the bible, to illiterate populace, and sold absolutions and indulgences. They traded on other peoples sin. You go to confession and confess for stealing a neighbors chicken. The priest or bishop would charge you 2 dollars for absolution, you take the 2 bucks and go see a chicken farming parishioner and ask for a chicken, then you take the free chicken to the victim of the chicken theft and give it to him.
    You made yourself 2 bucks. made yourself look holy because you returned a chicken that a guy didn't even know he was missing, granted absolution to a confessor, and so on.
    Christianity was founded by hustlers like simon magus, he was a magician and soothe-sayer who tried to buy Holy Spirit power.
    That was the attraction to the early Christians, which is separate from early believers, they wanted the power.
    They thought that if they killed the believers and stole their scriptures, they could appoint themselves the church and get the power.
    Wrong.
     
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    A lie told long enough and often enough, becomes a 'truth'.

    This is why religious people use the term 'truth'.

    As for JC, I find it VERY bizarre that this myth was said to have the capabilities to read and write, YET we have no writings from this supposed myth.
     
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    You don't do religion? Really? Then what's all this YAH worship about if not religion?
     
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    Jesus summed the whole Bible up in saying God is Truth.
    That is the logos.

    Truth is just one word.

    But, he promised the holy comforter of the New Testament which came 54AD.

    John 14:26
    But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
     
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    You forget that for 1000 years Christianity reigned over the whole Roman Empire.
    Everyone except the ghettoed Jews people believed in Jesus.
     
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    How do you know I forgot such a thing?
     
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    A bible verse? :laughing: You bring up a lie from a book of lies? This is getting good!
     
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    ...so, you do not believe in Truth because you can not discern it?
     
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    Well, you were just WRONG.

    Jesus dictated the whole book of Revelation for us to read:

    The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Revelation 1:1
     
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    because now we put people that try to kill their children and say "God made me do it".. in prison.. back then they included it in the book

    people are not as gullible as they used to be.... now they are quicker to recognize crazy...

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    LOL

    You said he never wrote anything.

    But, when I show you he did, you say these things.

    hahaaaaaa...
     
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    The Old testament Hebrew patriarchs acted just the same way as does Islam, today.
    The Hebrew exterminated sexually promiscuous populations of people so their kids would not be seduced into it.

    But today, through the New Testament, we are to use Facts and studies to show you, that it causes wide spread Child Abuse and destroys nations which practice it.
     
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    Did the book of lies, tell you that 'jesus' dictated the whole book of Revelation for us to read?

    Ever hear of circular logic?

    - - - Updated - - -

    A lie told long enough and often enough becomes a truth. You believe in lies? I certainly do not.
     
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    Yes, I do, that's why I don't believe in superstitions that involve talking snakes, talking donkeys, magic flying invisible people ("angels"), walking on water, a magic dead zombie from Nazareth, etc., and neither should other people who value science, reason, common sense, evidence, and critical thinking. If the magic book didn't promise you an after-life, then you likely wouldn't believe all that nonsense either!
     
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    hey FS :)

    thought we'd lost you to the dark side!
     
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    Incorrect. The only thing you need for salvation is Jesus.
     

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