Sarah Palin offends Christian groups

Thousands of Christians organize against Sarah Palin after waterboarding joke mocks baptism

Faithful America, a large online community of Christians, has launched an effort to publicly denounce former Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin after she mocked one of the religion’s most important rituals by comparing it to waterboarding.

Speaking at the National Rifle Association (NRA) convention last week, Palin had explained how things would be different if she were president.

“They obviously have information on plots to carry out jihad,” Palin said of terrorists. “Oh, but you can’t offend them, can’t make them feel uncomfortable, not even a smidgen. Well, if I were in charge, they would know that waterboarding is how we baptize terrorists.”

By Tuesday, Faithful America had already reached its goal of 15,000 signatures on a petition condemning Palin for the remarks.

“This is what we’ve come to in America: A former candidate for vice-president can equate torture and Holy Baptism, and one of the nation’s most powerful political lobbies erupts into cheers and applause,” Faithful America noted. “As usual, Palin’s remarks are already making international headlines, once again portraying Christianity as a religion of hatred and violence.”

The petition states: “For Christians, torture is not a joke or a political punchline, but a ghastly reminder of the suffering of Jesus upon the cross. By equating it with Holy Baptism — the act by which we are united with Christ in his death and resurrection — Sarah Palin is blasphemously twisting our faith into a weapon of hatred and violence. No media outlet should cover her remarks without reporting on how sincere Christians of all theological and political persuasions are appalled.”​

My Take:

While I'm not religious, even I can see why Christians may be upset over Palin's remarks. Using Religion as a political tool is bad enough, but many Christians consider their religion to be a peaceful. Palin is acting as a moral entrepreneur, pretending to know what real Christians want and, supposedly, real Christians want to torture others. Faithful America was one of the groups that was not amused by Palin's remarks, saying that they were appalled by her use of Christianity as a weapon of hatred an violence.

Palin must make hateful, grandiose remarks to cater her to her base (the more vicious she is, the more they cheer), but she can't step too far without offending moderate, sensible people (Christian or not). She must perform a difficult balancing act in order to get her paycheck, and this balancing act is becoming increasingly tedious. Since FOX dropped her, she has intensified the inflammatory rhetoric, and I believe her vengeful, hateful words will haunt her in the future.

 

""......Sarah Palin is blasphemously twisting our faith into a weapon of hatred and violence....""

But that is Palin's job, it's what she's paid to do....that's what the Republicans want her to do ... ignite hatred and violence...

 

They really cheered over that waterboarding comment. Her right-leaning populism is unappealing to potential converts, so she's not doing Republicans any favors. She just wants her check from Tea Pary or NRA organizations so she can earn a buck.

During her 2008 campaign, she prided herself on being a maverick. It turns out that she's more of an outsider than anyone could have guessed.

 

That brain dead whore has a kid with downs syndrome. Well, DUUUH!
She is just another case of a bimbo moving up the ladder on her back.

 

I fail to see why this pandering politically irrelevant person continues to give some people on the far right woodies. I guess the anti-intellectual movement can never be crushed entirely.

 

Palin used Islam as an example for waterboarding, not Christianity.

But she ought attack Christians who sit in churches praying while they watch, and even assist, Gays and half dressed harlots to encourage sexual promiscuity by our young people, as if it is OK.

Christians watch quietly as Welfare increases such to cost $1 Billion dollars annually today, Food Stamps increase, abortions remove 1.2 million "would be" enrollees, and see the 1.5 million yearly illegitimate babies match the 1.5 million legitimate two parent babies.

Christian America does NOT exist because it ignores The Truth that is Christ (John14:6).

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What is anti-intellectual on the Right?

 

Well, ... yeah...

Against Child Abuse.

The Left WANTS more sexual freedoms and has gotten behind the Gays-out-of-the-closet-movement without any Christian pointing out the increase in Welfare costs, the criminal behavior of the fatherless kids, the dangers inside the cities, the low grades in inner city schools, and Child Abuse of the bastards they have every year.

I was hoping a republican would run on a ticket that asked women if the child abuse was worth more democrats in congress.

 

Posts like yours. Also, Islam doesn't have "baptism". That's a Christian thing, which true Christians abhor her traducing.

 

So YOU, being a good christian and all, think hate and violence are wonderful if directed at people you don't approve of...HEY! YOU'RE JUST LIKE JESUS!


Got a question ...how does gays coming out of the closet increase Welfare, fatherless kids, and dangers in the inner city...and how many "bastards" do gays have?



AND NOTE THE USE OF THE WORD ''BASTARD'' THAT THIS CHRISTIAN USES WHEN REFERRING TO THOSE PRECIOUS LIVES ......THE PRECIOUS LIVES CHRISTIANS THINK ARE SO PRECIOUS THEY SHOULDN'T BE ABORTED....BUT IF THEY'RE BORN this christian calls them "bastards"...


Doesn't that make any other christian just a little sick ??????

Palin isn't the only one giving you a bad name...

 

A bastard, by definition, is a child born without a married mom and dad. They do cost money because the public usually has to finance their lives.

Your question to cupid dave was moot. Not my business, but I didn't feel like the poster was saying that homos coming out causes welfare costs, fatherlessness, and criminal behavior, since gays don't pro-create. I think he was referencing the "left, and more sexual freedoms".

 

The OLD antiquated word for a child whose parents aren't married is "bastard"...it has evolved to have a very derogatory meaning.

To repeatedly refer to children as "bastards" is sickening and shows a total and complete disrespect for what christians would call one of their god's creations.

I find it disgusting to refer to any child as a bastard no matter who or what created them.... and normal decent people don't.

 

No, she said she would "baptize" them through waterboarding.

Yeah, create peace with more attacking.

Relevance?

That's quite an elitist claim. I'm sure that American Christians would disagree with you.

 

Gate has one trick, hoof in mouth, why anyone would be surprised that she did it again is the only surprise I have.

 

I'm confused by this quote. Is it a good thing or a bad thing that "bastards" are abused?

 

Anyone who thinks this woman is politically relevant or intelligent.

 

I don't believe the word "bastard" has evolved to mean something derogatory, I think it was always seen, and meant to be, derogatory. It is what it is. The word is in the dictionary, and generally accepted in our lexicon.

By "definition" a bastard is a child born out of wedlock. Being a bastard is not, and never was, seen as a good thing, or something that society should take with a grain of salt, so to speak.

A bastard says more to me about the mama and daddy, then it says about the child. Bastards do tend to end up on welfare, in jail and prison, needing subsidized housing, and are a general burden on American non-bastards - but then, what else would you expect from immoral and irresponsible parents.

Maybe if we used the word bastard a little more freely, there would be fewer of them. And whores too. And adulterers should be stoned, male and female.

And gays need to quit trying to shove homosexuality down our throats, it is perversion, and you shouldn't ask anyone to just accept perversion. Not that I encourage hate and murder for gays, I believe they should have a state of two of refuge, just like Moses ordered. Maybe California and Florida could be states of refuge. As a servant of YAH, I would prefer to separate myself from perversion. I'm offended that anyone would expect me to compromise my relationship with YAH to please men.

 

Yah, yah, yah, whatever....
As a servant of Yah you seem in serious need of help... are you sure his name isn't Blah???

 

If Palin lived by biblical law literally, her daughter would have to be put to death for having sex outside of marriage. I do NOT advocate this, I wish no harm come to the Palin family, but they are hypocrites and do not represent true christians. She has put such a bad name on christianity. I am glad this baptist organization at least came out against her. Every christian should. Every decent person should be opposed to what she said. And yes, in christianity, what she said is blasphemous and hateful. She promotes hatred and torture and has the nerve to call herself a christian.

I heard somewhere too that she believed dinosaurs walked with jesus (please correct me if I am wrong about that).

 

And we should use the word hypocrite more often ... on second thought lets stone them too!

I'm sure your god blah would agree!

 

Those "half-dressed harlots" really bother you, don't they, cupid? Spend a lot of time thinking about them and the evil lustful things they do, huh?

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Just her Cultists. Seriously...no difference between what a Palin devotee thinks of Sarah or says in her defense...

and what a Scientologist would say about L. Ron Hubbard.

 

Sure, as long as the rest of the Mosaic laws are punished when broken.

Some other things the OT says you should not do.

Old Testament

Many of the following belong to the ceremonial and civil categories of the Mosaic Law, which Christians regard as defunct and Jews regard as binding on themselves only.
[edit]Sexual acts
All of these merit death.
Homosexual intercourse between men (Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13).
Adultery (Leviticus 20:10-12, man and woman).
Lying about virginity. Applies to girls who are still in their fathers' homes, who lie about their virginity, and are presented to their husband as a virgin. The accused is guilty until proved innocent. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21)
The daughter of a priest practicing prostitution (death by fire — Leviticus 21:9).
Rape of a virgin who is engaged. If she is not engaged you only have to marry her and give her father 50 shekels. No mention is made of the girl’s opinion, and no punishment is specified for raping a single non-virgin female. (Deuteronomy 22:25)
Being the victim of rape, if one is an engaged female virgin and the rape occurs in a city. If it takes place in a field, the victim is spared because nobody would have heard her screams. (Deuteronomy 22:23-27)
Men or women practicing bestiality (both person and animal die —Leviticus 20:15-16).[1]
Having sex with your father’s wife, as distinct from "your mother," as it was permissible at the time for men to have several wives (both die — Leviticus 20:20).
Having sex with your daughter-in-law (Leviticus 20:30).
Incest (Leviticus 20:17).
Marrying a woman and her daughter. Mother, daughter, and husband are all burnt to death. (Leviticus 20:14)
[edit]Food and drink
Consuming blood; blood in meat is not exempt (Genesis 9:4).
Eating a cheeseburger. Oh helll not the cheeseburger!!! (or anything else that mixes meat and dairy — Exodus 23:19).
Eating fat (Leviticus 3:17).
Eating pork (Leviticus 11:7-.
Eating a fellowship offering more than three days old (Leviticus 19:5-.
Eating aquatic creatures lacking fins or scales (Deuteronomy 14:9-10).
Eating any meat not killed according to the kosher practice (Deuteronomy 12:21).
[edit]Idolatry
Consulting a psychic or spiritualist (Leviticus 19:31).
Being a psychic or spiritualist, punishable by death (Leviticus 20:27).
[edit]Daily life
Performing any work on the sabbath (Exodus 20:10).
Planting more than one kind of seed in a field (Leviticus 19:19).
Wearing clothing woven of more than one kind of cloth (Leviticus 19:19).
Cutting the hair on the sides of your head or clipping of the edges of your beard (Leviticus 19:27). This commandment is the reason why Orthodox Jews often sport sidelocks and big beards.
Touching the dead carcass of a pig (Deuteronomy 14:.
Cross-dressing (Deuteronomy 22:5).
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/List_of...d_by_the_Bible

 

I have no clue as to why you made that post to me.
But as far as the law goes, not one jot or tittle has disappeared from the law of YAH - the 10 commandments.
As for the law of Moses, Yahushua gave insight when he explained that Moses motivation for making some laws were varied. Such as a writ of divorce.
I didn't see anything in your post that made me uneasy. Maybe you think the status quo is utopia and needs no law of YAH or Moses. Its a pretty evil and perverted world, is that what youd prefer?

 

You have been duped.

"Faithful America" is nothing but a leftist PAC under the guise of a religious organization.

https://mikesright.wordpress.com/20...rica-christian-organization-or-left-wing-pac/

"Meanwhile, let’s take a look at Faithful America, a “faith-based” organization with a long history of exploiting religion to promote left-wing agendas. The banner on its website looks “religious” enough:"

A visit to the group’s website, makes it clear where the non-profit organization stands:

Republicans slash food aid for low-income women and children.

John Boehner’s budget guts key programs that help struggling families.

Some in Congress think the right way to balance the budget is to cut billions from basic investments in education and child health and nutrition.

We are going on the offensive against immoral budget cuts and threats to workers’ rights in the states.

Work to prevent the catastrophic effects of climate change.

Work for welcoming communities where immigrants and people of all faiths are welcome.

A Salaam A’alaykum ["Peace be with you" in Arabic]. We express our deep sorrow at abuses committed in Iraqi prisons. We stand in solidarity with all those in Iraq and everywhere who demand justice and human dignity.

We condemn the sinful and systemic abuses committed in our name, and pledge to work to right these wrongs.”

Peter King has no shame. He continues to give voice to the fears and hatred of Americans rather than to what Lincoln called “the better angels of our nature.”


"Why would atheist George Soros give money to a Christian organization? Has the anti-American Soros suddenly found religion? Of course not. The only logical answer is that 'Faithful America' is one of many left-wing organizations that supports the leftist billionaire’s agenda – and vice versa."

 

Just like the muslims of today, these OT Laws are what patriarchies use and believe in.
That is just The Reality which is inherent in mankind.

The Bible is dead right.
God made these kind of men to b different from the sexually promiscuous gentiles.

 

Statistics on Fatherlessness
CHILDREN NEED BOTH PARENTS
(*)
It’s a Fact
Here’s why:

63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes. (Source: U.S. D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census).

90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes.

85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes.
(Source: Center for Disease Control).

80% of rapist motivated by displaced anger come from fatherless homes. (Source:
Criminal Justice and Behavior, Vol. 14, pp. 403-26).

71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. (Source: National Principals Assoc. Report on the State of High Schools).

85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home. (Source: Fulton County Georgia jail populations, Texas Dept. Of Corrections, 1992).

These statistics translate to mean that children from fatherless homes are:

5 times more likely to commit suicide
32 times more likely to run away
20 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
14 times more likely to commit rape
9 times more likely to drop out of high school
20 times more likely to end up in prison

Children from "fatherless families of single mother" homes are*:
(*)
• 15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
• 4.6 times more likely to commit suicide
• 6.6 times more likely to become teenaged mothers
• 24.3 times more likely to run away
• 15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
• 6.3 times more likely to be in a state-operated institutions
• 10.8 times more likely to commit rape
• 6.6 times more likely to drop out of school
• 15.3 times more likely to end up in prison while a teenage
• 73% of adolescent murderers come from mother only homes
•(*) 6.3 times more likely to be in state operated institutions
(*)

Daughters who live in mother only homes are 92% more likely to divorce**