Danger to Human Freedom from resurgent Marxism

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  1. stjames1_53

    stjames1_53 Banned

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    your boy, Marx, was a womanizing gutter drunk who convinced himself that the government should take care of his wife and sickly children while drinking and whoring around. And this is the guy you worship.
    I do understand Marxism. It is based on communal living where the people are lorded by a bunch of lazy non-working worthless POS's.
    There are NO Individual Rights to be had in Marxism. Since everyone is unique, Marxism,( which is a "One size fits all" program) cannot prevail unless forced at gun point. Hence the reason for keeping a nation unarmed.
    IT is all about supporting the party, up to and including, surrendering ALL personal property as it becomes property of the state. Once the state has total control, party politics and rulers agenda become paramount.

    Those rulers have ALWAYS lived so much better than the serfs in the fields.
    Socialism always leads to communism.
    I seriously doubt that anyone wants to be lorded over. Anyone proclaiming that socialism is the answer has a hidden agenda.
     
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    Taxcutter says:
    Cuba is my favorite because it is close, but Zimbabwe is just as bad. You can throw in NorK, too.
     
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    The same people who own the Red Party own the Blue Party. Doesn't matter which of the dogs rounds up the herd, just as long as all the sheep are in the pen.
     
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    YOU were the one who used Venezuela as a scale on which the United States should judge it's politics. Dude, you're leftism is EXPOSED!
     
  5. For Topical Use Only

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    Capitalised and bolded, even! High crime is afoot, no doubt.

    Just more of the story you're telling yourself, though. Ever considered writing fiction?
     
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    Yeah, can I put you down for a signed copy?
     
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    For Topical Use Only Well-Known Member

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    Sure.

    I'll spend the time to learn how you sign your name and use it for all my leftist material that I obviously keep hidden.
     
  8. munter

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    for someone who doesn't understand it, you sure do have some opinions on it - how about reading a book to get yourself acquainted..........
     
  9. Unifier

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    I don't think you're aware of how far to the left you actually are. So your view on the matter is naturally going to be a bit skewed.
     
  10. vaasamoorti

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    Communism

    Materialist determinism

    Disappearance of the state

    Producing value

    Marxism never in practice
     
  11. stjames1_53

    stjames1_53 Banned

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    seems that you don't understand the term "Liberty" Why don't you grab a copy of the DoI and get back to me
     
  12. Battle3

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    You do know the "Red Party" is the "progressives" and the establishment Republicans, don't you? That R vs D model is a farce, its not R vs D, its you vs the State.
     
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    1. Does anyone believe that the situation seen in the Marxist countries like China, North Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, and Cuba is Marxist economy?

    2. Was Marxism practiced in erstwhile Soviet Union?
     
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    The fact is Marxism was not practiced in the erstwhile Soviet union. Widely acknowledged work Maurice Dobb's Soviet economy since 1917 proved it. The economy was planned to suit the purposes and needs of a totalian Government. Regarding the Marxist state they are not governed by Marxism but by Marxists parties in power which controlled the major part of the economy in a monopolistic manner and a party is left for private enterprise.
     
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    Have you ever read Marx?
     
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    Next set of questioning.
    1. How do Marxists explain communism after which they named themselves? Are there any books, or are there any speeches by leaders describing communism in detail?
     
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    Under the Marxist umbrella the Soviet Union and China became nightmares on Earth and all the determined historical revisionism in the world by followers of Marx is not going to alter that reality and so wise people are going to continue pushing back against Marxists and smatterings of Marxist ideology wherever it surfaces . . . because the alternative to doing that can be read in history books from the old Soviet Union and China of only a couple of decades ago and Pol Pot's Cambodia.
     
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    Marx had an umbrella?

    Soviet Nebraska 1919 , a Chinese nightmare !

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    What historical relativism ? Lenin & Co tried to make their own interpretation of a book into a state to satisfy their personal ambitions , other guys like Mao took the opportunity and followed , it is not a big secret .
    Also to accuse someone of revising history you have to know history and understand the sociopolitical and economic background , so far you have demonstrated that knowledge and understanding is not your strong points.

    Mao making a fool of himself ... but hey not a freaking word about Marx !

    Show me a wise person who does that , all i see here are uneducated ignorants who think that TV and establishment press are PhD programs.

    You forgot to mention Obama ! now tell us about the muslim atheists .


    *Don't take my reply personally , i read 10s of similar posts everyday and from what i understand your lack of information is not a result of personal insufficiency but malicious intention.

    **Bolsheviks and Maoists had the vision of a worker's state with them on top and the vanguard as their watchdogs , a state to come through a revolution. Not all communists are revolutionary , not all communists believe that there should be a state or a vanguard or someone on top .
     
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    One points at the classic failures of Marxism transitioning into effective and sane government and says, "Urk!" It always turns into brutal totalitarianism with state police and propaganda officers.
     
  20. vaasamoorti

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    Yes.
    I am a writer. My book 'Specter turned Ogre' has published under the original title 'Marxism - Relevance and Practice' and was well reviewed in the press. It has been thoroughly revised now.
     
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    You have no points and you cannot criticize communism, but i can and i do .
    Why nobody ask me or other communists in the forum what went wrong ? at worst case scenario you will learn something so you will not have to repeat the same laughable content.
     
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    What went wrong was embracing Marxism and also Socialist dogma at the very get-go. Things were inevitably going to go downhill from there as the users and the slick con-artists then moved in and took over from the earnest but clueless BELIEVERS.
     
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    If Marxism and socialism were dogmas how come there are thousands of different schools, sects and parties ? seriously, you have no points.

    Have you ever thought why Egypt and Afghanistan are incapable of understanding and embracing democracy ? why it took over 300 years for a guy like Cromwell to appear ? how your democracy allowed slavery to exist ? why Castro and Chavez had to stick in power to protect people's revolution from... people?

    Here is the answer : Because societies gradually move from A to B , if by events are kicked from A to F no matter how much time passes they will go back to to do B, C, D and E . Look today's Russia .
     
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    Really? Where this is taking place? Here, in USA, big corporations and greed rule unrestrained. Marx was a genius; he predicted those booms and busts we are living through again and again. It would be not a bad idea to learn something from Marxism and introduce proper socialistic reforms to control the greed.
     
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    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    You seem to forget that no matter what influences are around us we have our own minds and opinions of what is right or wrong. I am example of that, I grew up with a Liberal father from Boston that was as racist as they come, yet I am nor have I ever been a racist in my thoughts or opinions. One can rise up from where were came from, all it takes is an open mind and some willingness to expend the effort to learn, really not that hard to do.

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    Is all Socialism bad? You know it is a trick question but I would still like to hear the reply.
     

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