Why do you believe in God?

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  1. dairyair

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    That would be a very moving reason as to why.
     
  2. OhZone

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    Without all the taboo about the "occult" people would learn the true power of their own minds and be in a better position to take responsibility for their own lives. Of course the apathetic, like the poor will always be with us.
     
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    An enlightened society would learn self-control without the need to fear an imaginary "god".
     
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    Why would you want to 'challenge' somebody to why they believe in God? You may as well start 'challenging' people to why they love their mother, why they trust life is good or why they feel the contrary. None of these things are much of a choice and all of them are rather personal.

    But I can tell you that my belief in God does not turn my life into an emotional rollercoaster, and I doubt it would necessarily turn into one if I did not believe in God. And if your disbelief in God makes you feel good, I'd leave you to it, irrespective of what I think 'hits the mark'. After all, it's you who has to live with yourself, not me.
     
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    why do you believe that you need to challenge people who believe differently than you? Sounds passive-aggressive and/or narcissistic to me. You made your choice. What relevance does my choice have to yours?
     
  6. Bartholomew_Vine

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    I can still ask the question, whether you like the question is a different matter. I am an atheist and do not believe in god or gods, I am just wondering why you believe. There is nothing sinister in that.
     
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    Quite simple actually.

    If you don't believe in god, you might go to hell.

    If you do believe in god you might go to heaven.

    So being an atheist has no perks.
     
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  9. Incorporeal

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    Are you suggesting that being an atheist will exempt one from the codes, rules, regulations, statutes and laws that are all man-made?
     
  10. FoxHastings

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    No, duh. This is the RELGION forum...we're discussing this in a RELIGIOUS context. I am referring to man made RELIGIOUS rules ...ya know, like they have in RELIGIONS.
     
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    Can you enlighten me a little on that one... what rules are you talking about?
     
  12. FoxHastings

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    Oh c'mon...
     
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    Well, you suggested that there are religious rules. What are they?
     
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    There are no rules in the bible? I guess the 10 commandments are more like guidelines now?
     
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    Well what about those religions that do not adhere to the Bible? What rules would be found among them?

    Oh wait a minute.. You were asking questions. 1: None 2: Depends on perspective.
     
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    In regards to you, it doesn't matter since you are a follower Yahweh.

    So now I will ask again, (unless you want to be obtuse): There are no rules in the bible? I guess the 10 commandments are more like guidelines now?
     
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    Hey Stones: What are the rules for the religion of Atheism?

    re·li·gion (rĭ-lĭj′ən)n.1. a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.

    b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.


    2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.

    3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.

    4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion."




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    That would be question #1 and question #2. See post #40. Already answered.

    Who is Yahweh?
     
  19. FoxHastings

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    I did not "suggest" there are man made rules, I stated there ARE man made rules.
    Every religion has it's individual rules and there isn't room to list them all but I was raised Catholic and , oh, the rules! Confess your sins, women must wear a doily on their heads in church, no women are allowed to be priests(just do all the work), can't eat breakfast if you're going to have a cracker at Mass, attend Mass, call priests "Father", study your catechism which is a a whole book of rules, priests and nuns SHOULDN'T have sex (hilarious, they never stopped), give money for "Father's" Cadillac even if you're much poorer than he is, work hard because that's the only way to heaven, if you "sin" you go to hell but if your mouth says you believe in Jesus you get a free pass, eat meat on Fridays and it's a quick trip to hell......

    And that's just a short list...another poster mentioned the rules allegedly carved on stone tablets....

    Now, I'm sorry you don't know religions have rules but maybe if you studied a bit it might help...
     
  20. Incorporeal

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    Wow! What a wierd church you went to. Well, I have been a church goer most of my life, have studied the Bible intensely and have seen only suggestions on how one could live his/her life with less problems.

     
  21. FoxHastings

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    It's not weird in the context that ALL Catholic churches have these silly rules... I agree it IS weird in that adult people see nothing wrong with these rules.
     
  22. Incorporeal

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    I do understand that the Catholic church is typically classified as a church, and is therefore in the group called 'religious'....HOWEVER,,, my view of Christianity is that Christianity is not a religion per se, but a way of life. But when considering the definitions of 'religion' it can be seen that religion does not necessarily have to constitute worship of a diety but rather can simply be an activity which is carried out in a manner that is depicted as conscientious devotion.. Some sports enthusiasts can be said to be practicing a religion based on the manner in which they devote huge amounts of time, energy and even money... Likewise people in other professions meet the same criteria; I also understand that some Atheists declare that Atheism is not a religion, but to see some on forums such as this, devoting huge amounts of time and energy, that activity meets the definition #4 at www.thefreedictionary.com/religion . I agree with you regarding how some adults will accept the notion of someone (another human) being in control of their lives.
     
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    You're splitting hairs.... when it comes to religion , christianity, whatever you want to LABEL it they all have silly man made rules....we have come full circle now...


    And christians ""devoting huge amounts of time and energy, that activity meets the definition #4"...so christianity IS a religion....even without your definition and ESPECIALLY if you call atheism a religion...
     
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    You are wrong again: "my view of Christianity is that Christianity is not a religion per se, but a way of life". You call it 'splitting hairs' and that is OK because it is your perspective as from "my view" the perspective is different. Thereffore, we will just have to agree to disagree.
     
  25. rstones199

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    Which section and topic?
     

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