What Happens When Obamacare Signups Reach 8 Million?

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  1. Mr_Truth

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    correction: 18 million signups and growing every day!


    Thank you Mr Obama!
    :flagus:
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You'd have to ask the insurance companies that chose to cancel their policies.
     
  3. RichT2705

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    That were mandated by Obamas ACA to cancel them you mean. They had no choice once your team rewrote the rules on what is acceptable.
     
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    They're not telling, and neither does Obama administration. Shall we forget about these 6 millions as being non-relevant?
     
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    Still amazes me, they have lied on just about everything on Obama care, and that is no exaggeration. However when numbers are thrown out with no proof of anything, [from the same liars] people believe them?

    Something mighty wrong with that picture....
     
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    What I don't understand is this... The law of the land is now that you have to buy insurance... Thats the law! And some people are talking about how the law is a success because 8 million have signed up for insurance? Thats what you measure success by?

    What about all the other things the law was supposed to do:
    Give people more options... "competition": Nope same players as before and in the exchanges many times its fewer companies participating

    lower costs: Not right now, its a fact insurance costs have gone up for the average American.... Now that lower costs is suddenly a promise of lower costs in the future... I think this is a stretch and a definitive move of the goal posts but we shall see.

    Provide better care?: I don't see how the law really does that, it doesn't increase the number of doctors, the quality of hospitals, etc and so on. It does make it against the law for doctors to start their own care clinics and hospitals though... Thats important! And it also taxes medical devices and such making them more costly...

    Allow people to stay with the insurance they liked and the doctors they liked: Lie of the year... enough said

    Now how about we consider unintended consequences such as millions wasted on state health care exchange sites that function poorly: Happened and is still happening

    People seeing their work week cut to under 30 hours a week: Happened to myself before I got promoted, when looking for part time job for extra cash I see many promising only 28-30 hours a week.

    Ohh I could go on and on, but I should really just ignore these things and accept the fact the law is a success because 8 million people have signed up on a website and it is still unclear how many of those are duplicates and how many of those have paid. Using that as the criteria I feel like I am playing Tee ball with unlimited swings and to get a home run all I have to do is knock the ball off the damn tee.

    If you really believe this is a success, then just swap out the presidents in the picture below:

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  7. fifthofnovember

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    My understanding is that the recently released e-mails re-ignited the Benghazi scandal, not Obamacare's "success". BTW, most Americans still oppose Obamacare, regardless of the numbers of people who have been bullied into it. So maybe the Republicans are just giving Obamacare a rest for a moment so that they can bring it up again closer to the elections? That issue certainly hasn't gone away.
     
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    Yes...when told that Obamacare DID NOT PERMIT the policies to be renewed (like the one my wife's employer offered), they were cancelled!
     
  9. Crafty

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    You should be thankful, that was obviously a junk policy not worth having. Thanks to Obama the insurance companies have been told whatfor and now have to provide people with real insurance. He is tough on big corporations that screw people over. So tough in fact he has made it against the law for us not to buy from them!

    *post full of sarcasm*
     
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    So 38 million is acceptable enough to call Obama Care a success?

    46 million uninsured before Obama Care......8 million signed up.....20% haven't paid. I simply can imagine by what willful suspension of disbelief it can be considered a success?
     
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    The other 38 million plus will continue their weekly trips to hospital/urgent care emergency rooms which are sworn not to turn the indigent away...and even if they DO have paid-up Obamacare, rest assured we paid for those premiums too. No matter how you slice it our taxes are supporting this faux insurance scheme.
     
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    Hey you have to give them some credit for taking a page from the Mafia. When a Bar owner told them,,''No I do not want your whiskey I buy from Acme.

    The Mafia had a similar sales pitch, ''Sorry Mr owner we took care of that shipment from Acme to you, there is no other whiskey except ours.''

    Works every time.....and AGAIN, they brag about it's success.

    So did Dutch Schultz.....
     
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    Does 'signing up' and 'paying' mean the same thing in liberal land?

    I can walk in to any Ferrari dealer in NY and 'sign' a check for $300,000. Doesn't mean I can actually 'pay' it.
     
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    Last year 23,652,000,000 hamburgers were sold by McDonalds, guess what? They were paid for and the people actually WANTED them.

    Now that's a success.....
     
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    The biggest problem that the GOP has had since Gingrich's time is its absolute failure to accept any responsibility for anything.

    When you sit in permanent opposition, you can't govern, and you don't achieve any of your goals because you can't work with your colleagues or make deals.(because they don't trust you).

    That has been the legacy of the GOP for over twenty years now. Little of what they have accomplished is of real value, except to their cornies.

    This behavior is typical.

    They spent the last four years fighting health care reform, while never once suggesting a comprehensive althernative. Now that polls make it clear that most Americans either like the ACA or wish for something stronger like single payer, the GOP knows it can't campaign on this any more.

    So, their made up scandal will have to do.

    Even here, the worst thing they can say about the Obama adminstration is that they spun the story for a couple of weeks. Even that is dubious.
     
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    No, even before the e-mail came out, the Daryll Issa show was back on.

    They pumped it back up again by summoning Lois Lerner back to the Committee, after Issa turned down a deal for her testimony. It was more useful to him, and to right wing media, to see her on TV taking the fifth once again, so the noise machine could rant and rave about it.
     
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    Lol...It does if you're honest.
    I can see why that would confuse right-wingers who feel that they're owed a living and think that welching on your debts is a sign of patriotism or manliness.
    Your folk hero Bundy is the latest example.
     
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    Most of the 4 or 5 million paid enrollees already had private healthcare before der black fuhrer canceled them and forced them onto obamacare.

    So the stated goal of helping the uninsured was a damn lib lie.
     
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