Rand Paul "clarifies" his statements against Voter IDs.

By Mario Trujillo

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) continues to believe voter identification laws should be left up to individual states, an adviser to the senator said Monday.

Paul's senior adviser, Doug Stafford, downplayed remarks Paul made Friday when he advised Republicans not to go "too crazy" about voter identification laws because they are "offending people."

Stafford signaled that Paul's comments to The New York Times did not mark a change in view and said it is a point he has made many times before.

"In the course of that discussion, he reiterated a point he has made before that while there may be some instances of voter fraud, it should not be a defining issue of the Republican Party, as it is an issue that is perhaps perceived in a way it is not intended,” Stafford said in a statement Monday. “In terms of the specifics of voter ID laws, Senator Paul believes it's up to each state to decide that type of issue.”

Stafford said Paul made the comments while having a larger discussion about restoring voting rights to felons and reforms to the criminal justice system.

On Friday, Paul said “Everybody’s gone completely crazy on this voter ID thing. I think it’s wrong for Republicans to go too crazy on this issue because it’s offending people,” African Americans in particular. He also pointed to his support for the restoration of voting rights for felons in his home state.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...fice-clarifies-voter-id-remarks#ixzz31bs8KUPy


Thus we see the paradox that Rand Paul is in.

On the one hand, he's trying to reach out to minorities to get them to vote Republican....

but on the other hand he belongs to the Republican Party which desperately wants to prevent minorites FROM voting.

And when he challenges them...he has to backpedal and say "No, no...I wasn't saying that Voter ID offended people...I was saying...uh...er.....something else!"

And thus we also see why, like his Dad, Rand Paul will NEVER be the GOP Nominee for President.

 

Thats the biggest lump of crap Ive ever read.

keep minorities from voting?

what a freakn joke.

 

Simple logical question, BVWC....MOD-EDIT - Post not Poster

If the GOP doesn't win minority votes.....would they want MORE or LESS minorities to be able to vote???

 

This is a thing with Rand. He makes an intelligent comment then turns around and "clarifies" it.

 

That depends on the minorities in question. Are we talking about illegal aliens voting or what?

Im quite sure the democrats want as many illegal aliens voting as possible, even if its against the law.

Illegal aliens are the only minorities who shouldnt be able to get an ID.

Youre whole belief system on this issue has revealed your racist democrat ideology.

Every American over the age 18 should have id.

Please explain why you think African Americans are somehow unable to get an id? Do you think theyre stupid or something? or do you think the secretary of states office in your county is racist and refused to provide Ids ?

Are you aware, you have to have an ID to vote in Kenya, Iraq, England, France, Argentina?





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He's trying to play BOTH a General Election game....AND a GOP Primary game....but he can't.

He can't say things that would help him in a General Election with Moderates and Independents and minorities....

because it costs him support in his own Party that he needs to win Primaries and the Nomination.

So ....he keeps flip-flopping.

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The minorities that Republicans don't get votes from, BVWC.

Again, it's a simple question.

If the GOP doesn't win minority voters in elections....which even you can't deny.....would ambitious Republicans who want to win elections....want MORE or LESS minorities to be able to vote???

 

He should do what Obama does and "calibrate" it instead.

 

Repubs cannot prevent minorities from voting once and are not trying to keep minorities from voting once.

Its the cheating and multiple voting that must be stopped.

But dims cannot win election if minorities only vote once.

 

What flip-flop are you talking about? I didn't see him change his position or anything, just said the same thing in a more palatable way.

 

Oh, yes, Mac......every Republican victory for ...what?....40 years? Has been "stolen" by "multiple voting minorities". Right?

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Palatable to whom?

 

LBJ won his first Senate election by fraudulent methods, so who knows what's going on with those Democrats?

Everyone. But where is this "flip-flop" you referred to? I didn't see him change his position.

 

So "Yes"...you DO believe that every election should have been won by Republicans but for "multiple voting by minorities"?

So it was NOT palatable to "everyone" BEFORE his clarification??? Who didn't find it palatable then?

 

No.

You are employing a typical leftist tactic, which is to avoid answering my question at all costs.

WHERE IS THE FLIP-FLOP YOU ALLEGED?

 

The "clarification" is the flip-flop, Ether. You don't have to "clarify" a statement if you said what you meant and meant what you said......UNLESS what you said was not "palatable" to perhaps the folks in your own Party who DO support Voter ID laws and Rand was saying it was "crazy" and "offending people"...

and those folks on his own side got mad at him, so he sends out his spokesman to "clarify" the statement....i.e. soft-soap it or "smooth it over" so that Republicans and rightwingers think Rand didn't EXACTLY mean what he said or EXACTLY say what he meant.

But you know that.....I think we both know your view of Senator Paul and why you want to defend him.

 

No, a clarification is a clarification, and a flip-flop is a flip-flop. Clarifying just means you are making something more clear to people, but flip-flopping means you are changing your position 180 degrees. Where did Rand Paul change his position on voter ID? He still thinks Republicans overemphasize the issue relative to others, and he still thinks voter ID laws should be handled by the states and not the federal government. So, where is the "flip-flop"?

 

"overemphasize".....or get "too crazy"?

And does he still think Voter IDs "offend" people...that wasn't mentioned in the "clarification", was it?

 

Arguing against the ID's is illogical and frankly ignorant.

The government places specific requirements on eligibility to vote.

1. You must be a US citizen.

2. you must be a resident in the district you cast a vote in, (you must also register which is ridiculous if the other three requirements are met)

and 3. you must be 18 or over.

The only way to verify those three things is with a legitimate ID provided by the government. IOW you can't Photoshop your own ID or just have the government take your word for it. There is nothing racist about the requirements. That is just irrational stupidity.

Now if you make a law the day before an election, you might have a leg to stand on claiming that someone is trying to pull a fast one, but if there is at least 3-6 months before an election takes place and it is determined to be necessary by law then go get yourself an ID, and vote. Stop whining about the what if's and the shame BS!

 

He was obviously using figurative language, hence the clarification.

I don't know. You'll have to ask him. Let us know how he responds...

 

He does that a LOT, huh?

 

I think Republicans wouldn't have nearly as much push back if ALL they wanted were IDs. The restricted voting hours is a much bigger concern. That and how to reform absentee voting which is where the vast majority of fraud occurs.

It's their actions on those two fronts that reveals the plan to restrict some from voting dem.

 

I don't know, does he?

 

Sort of "gives it away"....that GOP State Legislatures try to curtail hours of voting even targetting areas of high minority voters to place "voting officials".

As is becoming his SOP....Rand admits to a problem in the GOP, then quickly tries to "clarify" his way out of it when that same GOP gets mad at him. He truly is a cowardly sort.

 

And the video saying the restricting of voting hours didn't help them either.

 

As I asked.....isn't it logical (if sleazy) that if the GOP doesn't get minority votes in elections....they'd want t do whatever they can to stop minorities from voting in elections???

 

Not true.

Its almost like the dumber someone is and the more messed up stuff they say the better chance they have to be the nominee. Think of Flip Flop Mitt Romney, Lair Juan McCanez and John Kerry.