90% of the germans are discusted about Putin

Vain irony. In some Russia villages still stoked furnaces with manure. By the way, in Germany too. This is called very modern - biofuels. The main types of biofuels: factory compost of household waste, household waste, horse manure, cow manure, sheep manure, swine manure, sawdust, bark. For example, it's very useful for heating non-residential premises. Biofuels (manure) burning in furnace at a temperature of about 40*C continuously to 100 days.

 

Well. I am very glad that matched the contemporary German trends. I could advise as Germans could produce gas, but I'm afraid I was banned.

 

Actually, they were invented by Chinese

Cugnot (French) and Trevithick (British)

Actually, history of invention of computers was spread starting from (Englishman) Babbage till ENIAC (USA). Role of Mr. Zuse work was notable, but not as important as you think.

Again Chinese. O, sorry, its about WAR… Then sure you are right. Hail Germany!

The Long Island Motor Parkway, opened in 1908 as a private venture, was the world's first limited-access roadway. It included many modern features, including banked turns, guard rails and reinforced concrete tarmac. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/automobiles/12LIMP.html?_r=0

They started with Chinese toys, da Vinci made first design, and yes, Germans built two flying machines. But only model of Russian-American Sikorsky was useful and was produced in large quantities.

Yes, again for WAR. Again Hail Germany!

nuclear power (Einstein) – a joke?



You demonstrate a somewhat funny viewpoint, very similar to Afrocentrism.

 

Than why it is heavily subsidized in Germany?

 

We have you, Fabien, and that other German kid here who show me something that I'm not sure is very good.
It's very strong Nationalism, aggression, pig-headed certainty in hazy concepts, and (still) this belief in German superiority.
Will Germany again be the aggressor that hurls Europe into war?

 

You mean coal productio in the Ruhr? Good night.....if you do mean that,

1. You lose. Coal dies
2. You talk like 1950 ever noticed a climat change?

3. You wish Russia "to develop te c h n o l o g y"?

ROFL!!!

 

Nope. China did invent printing, but not letters to print. That was Gutenberg (it was my first porofession, sry)

Cars was the Otto Motor, not the french. You are wrong again.

Zuse did invent the idea itself in 1938. You have no clue..

ahhh I leave you. You are just an other anto-german who is jalous.

A troll actually

Your "Hail" (it is Heil btw) shall be a reason to bann you here. be glad that I do not ask for that.

 

Why are all forms of fossil energy are heavily subsidized?

You are not in the issue.

To pay for searching a place to stock nuclear stuff, did cost more than all money you can imagine. they did find nothing so far. Global warming must be paid by reparing all...the costs are hidden extra money...all that windenergy does never need.

So lets pay real prices and windenergy does not need any extras. They are the cheapest form of energy ever.

 

Technology develops fast and nonlinearly, so solar sources of energy and windmills, I agree with Fabien, may push away traditional sources of energy quite soon. In Soviet Union the first atomic station was built in 1954 and already in 20 years whole country was covered with many atomic stations. For Putin, it is better not to make jokes about firewood, but rather to invest money for the development of alternative sources of energy.

 

The Germans have been disgusted with the Russians before. So what? The Germans lost.

 

Actually I disagree. Russia and russians do have apart from Putin also a very good view.

What we lost ( and that is also the mistake of germans very much who caused the war against the Soviet Union) is trust. Germans and russians shall try to find brigdes to trust eachother.

In that terrible war, both (russians and germans ) did lose. they lost friends and neighbors.

Ah..I am not sure if that can be understood.

Hey vis

Spaciba

 

You are welcome, Fabien Good post!

 

You miss stepped again. Did you see this thread in this forum? http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=357015
It tells us that 85% of German TV viewers voted for Putin course!

 

Pronin,

NTV is not serious. If they would tell you that 89 % voted against Putins policy I would doubt that also because NTV is indeed trash - it is the german CNN and that I do not give a damn anyway.

BBC, France Inter, Arte, ZDF, ARD, Deutsche Welle...these are good media, espacially Arte (best I do thing ever existed).

Putin stands for germans for several things. He was a KGB officer. So he was a spy. Espionage is considered as crime here...than he was a spy for the ex Soviet Union...

Eaven worse. And now all his aditude...

You do know..I am just thinking many russians might be nice people but simply not know what Putin really is about. In the eyes of most non russians I know, he is simply sangerous and shall be stopped.

That little funny group among some exotic Putin Lovers in Germany does not represent at all german mainstream.

A lot comes from the frustration about US behaviour in NSA affaire. I mentionned that before. NSA must stop espionage in Germany. I would, if they don't, insist that their embassy will be removed at the countryside 100 km from Berlin so that they have a harder time to spy.

That affaire made germans feel that they are irritated about the USA. But that does not make them by majority suporting Putin or his policy in Crimea.


To get back to the issue:


Germans mainly dislike Putin. The source of NTV has zero value. It is a fake. A fake by bad lousy work...they might did ask 100 people at phone and needed a surprise. So as I said...they mentionned anything and did make everything about the answer.

Look better at Ammnis, Allensbach ect...

German - Putin realtionship is done, finish, destroyed.

A new russian president what will change that policy in Europe, might be seen better.

"Mit seiner Krim-Politik erntet Wladimir Putin viel Kritik in Deutschland. Die Bundesbürger verbinden wenig schmeichelhafte Eigenschaften mit Russlands Präsidenten. "Clever" ist eine der positiveren. "

in english:

with his Crimea policy Putin gets lots of critics in Germany. The germans do not connect nice bahaviour with Putin at all. That he is considered beeing clever, is may be the last and best one....

90% say: Putin is dangerous for Europe.

That is a fact

 

Any other source is going to cost more to deliver, and probably contribute to carbon emissions to boot

 

It does not matter to those, who has wind and solar power. However, Germans sold a lot of cars and equipment in Russia. Russians will develop their own industries, which is beneficial to the country. Nevertheless, Germany or EU will not get southeastern provinces of Ukraine.

 

I did never hear that germans wanted provinces there. If Ukraine desides to join the EU and if the EU wants to take Ukraine, Ukraine will be member of the EU. The whole Ukraine including Crimea.

You can jump up and down, it wont change. It is up to the ukrainians and not to russian immigrants or war tourists from Moscow to deside that.

Let them vote the 25.05 and they deside all. Thats democracy

But no worry... the next 20 years I cannot see any new EU member. None, also not Serbia.

But Nato would be possible for Ukraine and also Georgia including the occupied areas.

It is not up to you to dseside. It is up to the people. Maidan has proven what the ukrainian people wanted. They wanted the west. Russian warlords from Moscow do not count on that bill.

 

90% of Germans don't like what Putin is doing, wow, tell us something thats not so obvious. Does anyone in Europe like what Putin is doing?

But guess what? When you act like a pushover, then the bully is going to come push you over. Time for the ultra-politically correct Europeans - particularly Germany - to get a dose of reality.

 

So, Germans are now against Russia? Is that what you're saying? "Quatsch!"
Was erwarten Sie von der Lektüre dieser Geschichten zu verstehen? Read on (and THESE stories are in English):
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/16/us-germany-russia-business-idUSBREA4F0F020140516
http://www.independent.ie/business/...kel-against-sanctions-on-russia-30284247.html
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303948104579535983960826054

Do 90% of Germans want to pay what it would cost for Americans to pipe natural gas from all over the United States, transform it into liquified natural gas, load it into gigantic tanker ships at Coos Bay, Oregon, and then sail it all the way around the planet to get it to Germany? And to make certain that you get enough of this precious stuff to get you through the l-o-n-g, cold, wet German winter, nicht war? . If I remember correctly, the German word, "Wahnsinnig" means something like "dreadful insanity"... right? . I know lots of sadly stupid Americans... but I don't know any stupid Germans, and I doubt that 90% of Germans really are that stupid....

 

You shall not liste to the social media that much...in social media it feels like 90% of the germans do support Putin.

But I do not think that among germans those who are oposed to him (and it is the majority also among left wing germans - the Green Party (left wing) was exploding when communists i the Parliament (Die Linke) did express understanding for Putin, believe me...and the conservatives here did back the Greens!) you will find a lot in social media, in the internet.

Germans do not want a new war and they are very careful about such option what I can understand.

I promise you:

If Putin continues, germans will at least with a lot of pain agree on buying more tanks, aircrafts...they will invest far more in the army than.

I dislike that a lot. Germany shall invest all it can into the Energiewende and in balance on social issues. But if Putin takes east of Ukraine, I promise you that will awake a spirit of prussian resistance what people right now would not think what could be possible.

Not now, not with pleasure, not with any patriotic bim bam. More with serious worries, with pain, with bad bad feelings. But all these experts from Putin: they should not underestimate the innerside of germans here. If germans are forced to become fighters again, they will and those who did cuase that will regret it.

I honestly hope that will not be the case. What a waste of ressources. I think to build brigdes is the far better option. I inside try to refuse such bad option. But this time, Germany would neither start a war, nor be on the wrong side as much as you cannot say that any war is wrong - I think all wars are wrong, but some cannot be avoided.

I think at that point strict and consequent sanctions are the best solution.

I am afraid Putin will laugh about that. Not all russians, but he will.

And I am afraid that would lead into a military EU what by now makes most americans simply laugh. They shouldn't. War is not a game and europeans did have enough of that nonsense indeed, especially France and Germany (these countries will never ever fight again with each other. I wish Russia would understand that spirit a little more about Ukraine).

 

Ze Germans are also unhappy with Putin's friends

[video=youtube;-Tp-AspPvmg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tp-AspPvmg[/video]

 

1. I do know about german industry. But the russo-german connections are important but overtaxed here. Russia is on Rank 11. 11!!! So infact of low importance.

3% of german export goes to Russia...oh great!

Gas from the USA? No way. That I do not want at all, sorry. I want that the Energiewende will stop more and more the need of gas, oil, coal...by than, Germany will simply tell Russia:

"no need anymore, sorry, keep it"!

That will not be done within 2 or 3 years, but more and more. Strict harsh sanctions do not allow a smart switch here. So Germany is buying time to do exactly what I discribe inhere.

But if Putin keeps on doing all that, Germany will not be happy, not make a party about that, but vote on sanctions.

Hope that wont ever happen.

If Putin takes east of Ukraine, it will happen 1000%. Than we pay for a while 3 or 4 times more and tax with balance that. That will reduce growing, but it will demage Russians economy.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukrain...y-for-more-sanctions-against-russia-1.2638537


The difference between americans and germans often is:

Americans do want sanctions often for emotional internal reasons

For germans sanctions are the last option and not wanted or wellcomed. But they will happen if Russia keeps on doing what it is doing in Ukraine.

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hey...that video is from 2012! Merkel was reelected by a hugde majority.

That you do brin that collage made by idiots inhere, does really show how social media are used stupitely sometimes. Look at the date: 12.10.2012

It is a faked collage that video lol. You should take away the data when you do that ^^


...here you do have the source...I figured that out:

http://info.kopp-verlag.de/hintergr...-pfeifkonzert-gegen-merkel-jubel-machten.html

Kopp Verlag. My god. That is a NAZI Edition house. Yeah, they hate Merkel and all in Germany what is democratic.

http://www.tagblatt.de/Home/nachric...tenburger-Kopp-Verlag-macht-_arid,109075.html

Greek friend:

You do search neonazi support from germany to debate inhere...what a joke!

hahaha

 

Fabien, I have news for you:

1 - Crimea voted to be part of Russia. It is now a part of Russia.

2 - Maidan was a putsch, therefore the junta is not legal. The legal president is still Yanukovich.

3 - The people protesting were a minority from Lviv. It's a Polish city.

4 - Sixty percent of the Ukrainians are Russian speaking.

 

All bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

1. The vote was illegal and forced by russian special troops.

2. maidan was what Ukraine wanted so it shall be respected

3. Crimea was is and stays ukrainian. It is occupi3ed by russian fascists, backed by Putin.

4. Lwow is as polish as Stettin, Breslau, Danzig, Königsberg...are german. If Lwow will be polish again, you will start here in germany a big discussion. Unlike Poland, Russia has no land connection and no need for Königsberg. We could discuss that. Königsberg shall have a referendum. Before the referendum, Germany could offer each citizin 500 € per month for free, if they vote for Germany. Than Nato special forces could support such referendum. If russians disagree, ethnic cleansing. What about that?

Here we go, that is Crimea life style! Of corse such action would never be tolerated for very good reasons. But darling:

Same about Crimea!

Crimea is ukrainian.

5. Wait the democratic elections on the 25.05 If the ukrainians do want to give parts of Ukraine as presents to Putin, I respect all. But it is up to them (and not to moscow war lords) to deside.

6. Russian is one language in Ukraine. German, yiddish, polish, lituanian, tatare are others. Ukrainian is the official language in Ukraine. Russian shall also be the official language.

Russian will be and has to be respected.

Pro russians will and have to be send back to their homeland, to mother Russia in Moscow.

Fullstop

 

You are Funny!