Innocent minds are being destroyed

Nope. I'm just a step-grandfather. I don't have much influence. But that doesn't stop me from being concerned about what they are being taught.

 

Can I get an answer to this question now that we've refocused on the topic at hand?

 

Both religion and unions/progressivism are framed with the same exact timbers. Altruism. Seems your wife understands this somewhere, somehow. Must be part of her makeup. Both espouse sacrifice of the individual for the greater good.
You on the other hand can't accept this fact. That's your weakness.
Your wife probably appreciates sacrificing for the collective and bases her life on that sacrifice, uses that as a moral code for living. You on the other hand seem consumed with what religion has in store for you after death.
Unfortunately with your attitude you'll never be able to have that adult conversation with her and understand her base feelings on the subject. You've already made it a war zone not a topic of discussion.

 

Your open confession regarding respect and who deserves it indicates that you are on a mission to disregard the Rules and Guidelines of this forum which focuses on 'respectful debate'. Have fun with that one.

 

Do you not know that we are not the authority figure that will determine who does and does not go to heaven? Do you believe that your judgment is greater than that of God? Do you know the scripture well enough to know the meaning of 'potentate' as it is used in scripture? If you did, then you would also realize that asking this reading audience what their feeling is on the subject is a matter of addressing the wrong entities.

 

The difference being that liberalism is a force for good in the world. While the Christian church has a VERY different history.

 

As you say, nobody is perfect.

We disagree.

 

yes,... women are very poor in regard to explaining how Christian sexual prudence is a protection for their daughters against abortion, divorce, pre-marital sexual relationships, and such things.

Good for your daughter that mommy is just using intuition here, because you don't see the sexual climate in the western societies as threatening.

 

I don't think those people will go to heaven, our good works don't save us but they are a test of genuine faith.

They go to hell for their sin, the same reason I would if not for my faith in the atoning death of Christ on the cross.

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How is all that liberal goodness working out in Detroit?

 

Christian "invented" the idea of intentional and god fearing Charity.

They also attracted the whole world to just one God.
A classroom has been created which will soon see god as Truth, our savior.

 

I'm sorry but I never would have even become involved with such a woman who had that kind of disrespect for me.

Secondly, she's just assuming things and this is a strong lack of communication.

I just can't see the point of being in a relationship where it's completely one way and there's no communication. Being in a relationship means communicating and having respect for how the other person feels.

 

I most certainly do NOT think that my judgement is greater than god's. The fact that is VASTLY superior was my first step towards atheism.

People like you, on the other hand, seem to have no problem whatsoever reconciling the most disgusting beliefs imaginable with your imaginary god. In fact you are willing to bow down and worship the worst being in all of literature without a moment's thought. With such a sick and twisted belief system its no wonder you don't have a problem with conservatism. Then you wonder why I don't like to see children being indoctrinated into that mental illness. Have fun spending eternity with the Nazis.

 

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Your wife was introduced to Christianity because 2000 years ago it started as a beginning and has been maintained ever since.
The "conservative Christians" who passed this down to us deserve credit for that,... right?

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Then you are pro-Abortion, Pro-Welfare, Pro-child Abuse of fatherless kids, number half the population now?

 

I don't know where you get your phony numbers, the debt increased under 2 trillion under Reagan, when Obama took office it was 10.6 trillion, now it is about 17 trillion. Your math is as poor as your theology. The debt increased under Reagan for two reasons, he was busy winning the cold war (do you want to fault FDR for increasing the debt during WWII?), and while doing it he had to fight both the Russians and liberal democrats. The second part was when he agreed to raise taxes and the Congressional democrats agreed to cut spending. Guess what they didn't do? I will fault Reagan for trusting democrats. Reagan took over a worse economy than Obama did and fixed things, he didn't blame his predecessor like Obama. Obama's failure is not surprising considering he had never run so much as a popsicle stand, the only thing he's used to running is his mouth. Inflation and unemployment dropped significantly with Reagan, and we had a 5% growth rate, which accomplishes a whole lot of societal good. And of course when Reagan cut taxes, tax receipts doubled, something that's not supposed to happen, at least if you're a liberal. I would love to stick to religion here, but your fantasies aren't confined to that subject.

 

Hmmm,...
Without a change in the Sexual Immorality of the West, how does a smart guy like you reduce the Child Abuse suffered by half the kids in America now born fatherless ???






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So in your mind, Obama hasn't raised the debt, okaaay......

Coming from you that's a compliment.

Like, 'if you like your insurance you can keep it'?

I've never heard a political thing from my Anglican church, and you need to man up and cite any comment I made about Jews or retract. I suspect you just made that up.

Typical liberal, when confronted with facts they just make personal attacks, right out of the Saul Alinsky playbook.

 

Such are unqualified opinions regarding other members of this forum. Your comment shows uncertainty.

 

Based off what you said, it seems that the bolded statement better describes you than it does your wife. IMO, she has done nothing wrong. There is a way you talk to people, and a way not to talk to people. Especially your wife. Have you gone to any of these Church functions? Or are you basing your opinion that "children's minds are being destroyed" off of what you have heard? Seriously, it may not be as bad as you think. When I used to be a Presbyterian, I used to go with the youth group to do fun activities like fishing, playing pool, running around like crazy, and have a potluck dinner. I had a good time, because I got to meet new friends, and interact with people and play games.

The beief that religion destroys young people is your belief, and not one shared by most people. I know atheists that have pointed out the good things of religion. How is it that ideals of hope, faith, and charity can be dangerous to a society?

 

Cuckold / future divorcee spotted.

Edit: troll thread?

 

You are hilarious, you say it doesn't belong here then go on yourself to keep yammering on about it. Sorry you can keep saying I don't know anything about economics but its not going to make you correct. Here lets illustrate with a simple question. If you tax an employer more is he more likely to hire more people or less? We will baby step through it since you keep talking about it in your thread even though you don't want to talk about it. Ive been played for fool my ass. Gee because you said so it must be true! LOL
Also Obama is in charge, this pisspoor economy is all on you lefties or are you still blaming Reagan?

 

He is going to hire MORE people because he will need to offset his taxes. By putting his money back into the company by hiring more people and improving infrastructure he shelters his income. I realize that fact is too complex for the conservative mind set to deal with. But its the reason Americans were so much more prosperous during the 50's & 60's.

 

Hilarious. I see youve never ran a business before.

 

Make birth control and family planning more accessible and end conservatism.



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If tax cuts are so good at creating jobs then why were there so many more jobs when the taxes were higher?

 

Yes I am well aware that the activities you describe are how they get young minds conditioned to accept delusions such as you have described. And the fact that the overwhelming majority of Christians see nothing wrong (with a religion that teaches that Nazis can go to Heaven but Jews can't) does not make it any better. A spoonful of sugar might make the poison pill go down more easily. But its still a poison pill.

 

I think the OP should say 100 'Hail Mary's' and thank God that his wife is such a patient, tolerant person. Just kiddin'......Seriously though, why would you marry such a Christian woman in the first place? Seems like a lot of stress...for both of you.