How to Easily Debunk the “White Privilege” Slander

Although I'm sure there is such a thing as white privilege, it's hardly an important one. What about white privilege in Iceland? Probably non existent since virtually everyone is white. In the US, which is still a majority white country, white privilege is almost as irrelevant. Now South Africa under apartheid? That's white privilege!

 

Slander? Sounds like a whole group of people need to get over themselves.

And please pretend you care about poor whites. This is cynicism at it's worst.

 

I grew up poor, why wouldn't I care?

And it is slander of an entire group of people when you are launching unsubstantiated conspiracy theories against them and using them as a scapegoat. It's not just slander, it's outright racist as hell.

 

I wouldn't call that privilege at all. I see no reason that whites who settled in part of the area were obligated to give blacks things which the blacks never gave themselves in their existence. If one wishes to argue about what land belongs to who, fine, however the Zulu and similar tribes were Bantu migrants from much farther north, so they have very limited claim to the land themselves. But the actual towns the whites built and their infrastructure? They didn't owe blacks access to that any more than a wealthy guy down the road owes me due to my proximity and lack of income compared to his.

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Why have you been hopping thread to thread looking down on conservatives and saying things that are not only unsubstantiated but that which you are able to defend in the least except by asserting these things are correct?

I don't think you're really in position to be talking down to people in this manner.

Btw, regarding your signature. How do you explain that demographic groups with lower average IQs than whites are the ones which happen to vote liberal most often?

 

I'm sorry you grew up poor. But your criticism of "unsubstantiated conspiracy theories" is rich after parroting fringe racist propaganda repackaged as populism.

Also you don't seem to know exactly what racism is. It's more than being mean to someone because of their assumed ancestors. That's bigotry.

Racism is institutionalize bigotry, like Red-lining. Neither is acceptable from a human rights standpoint. But to fix racism requires actively dismantling the racist parts of a system. Just asking people to be nicer will not fix it.

 

I'd appreciate it if you would link the direct post where I used that term as I don't recall exactly what I said on it, so that way I could explain it further if need be. Aside from that, branding something I said as "parroting fringe racist propaganda" doesn't really mean anything. At least when I criticize something here, I make an attempt to explain why it fits the criticism I am making, such as pointing out the liberal political origin of the "discrimination is why black people have high out of wedlock births" canard. I pointed specifically to that coming from Senator Moynihan, and it's stuck ever since. To debunk his misinformed opinion, I cited a book dedicated to researching the black family in US history as well as a study of US out of wedlock birth rates going back from the 1920s to modern times which showed it drastically increasing over time, thus showing that blaming discrimination and Jim Crow isn't tenable.

At least be more specific so I can address whatever it is you're referring to.

 

You don't like living in a democratic republic do you.

 

Does not follow.

 

Sorry it wasn't intended for you.

 

Why have you been hopping thread to thread looking down on progressives and saying things that are not only unsubstantiated but that which you are able to defend in the least except by asserting these things are correct?

I don't think you're really in position to be talking down to people in this manner.

now you have just verified you have zero comprehension of iq, demographics or genetics, sooo....i find most of the posts from conservatives validate the qoute...

 

He started this thread. That's hardly "hopping from thread to thread."

 

she follows the same racist based theme every thread ...I will confront racists and their apologists everytime and everywhere they spew their ignorance and hate...

I have zero tolerance for racism, if they dont like it they can post over in stormfront and have an all white circle jerk, I wont follow them there...my war isn't with conservatives but racists who hide among them...

 

So someone that goes around talking down to people is complaining that someone is talking down to him. Interesting.

I am a former "progressive" and am all too familiar with its shortcomings, hypocrisies, and politically-driven moral blind spots. Are you a former conservative and thus are qualified to criticize a political movement of which you spent a good deal of your life in?

Well that's very interesting considering you have not remotely attempted a substantiation of a single one of your assertions which coincidentally remind me of everything I heard floating around in general between "progressives." There are certain topics that are taken as a given, and many on this forum repeat these here. You can easily spot someone that has internalized concepts such as this without critical thought by their inability to defend their views. One of their major talking points is that "white racism" is to blame for all unequal outcomes between racial groups.

The IQ issue per politics is very simple: Average white IQ is 100. Average Latino IQ is about 90. Average black IQ is 85. What is the general percentage of Democrat vs Republican voting of each of these demographics? Don't liberals brag about how few Latinos and blacks vote Republican? Yes, they do.

I think we know who knows nothing about IQ.

You may also find this enlightening: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/07/12/the-politics-and-demographics-of-food-stamp-recipients/

You seem to be content to go about on this forum committing the fallacy of proof of assertion while looking down on those who disagree. Just do the usual, dismiss it with a sneer and gallop off. Never defend anything you're saying, as if you're unable to.

Indeed, instead of defending your notion that "discrimination" is to blame for high out of wedlock black birthrates, you abandoned the discussion after I presented 2 sources that show otherwise. Did you retract your "blame white people" argument? Of course not. I'm sure you took issue with that I said out of wedlock birthrates skyrocketed during the same time frame the political Left were preaching about free sex, casual relationships, and were working overtime to legitimize single parenting and remove the stigma from it. Sorry, but it happens to be true.

Btw, if you want a good "progressive" political party, I think I have found one that you may like: http://www.plp.org/

 

I'm a she but I've been posting on several threads, usually challenging fallacious political liberal claims and concepts. They're having a hard time defending themselves.

 

Well you were just called a racist again, because that worked out so well the first 50 thousand times it was tried. That's their entire argument and it's pathetic indeed.

 

Your post on the previous page. Maybe you should slow down on message boards if you're finding it hard to track what you wrote.

I think if you're versed enough in internet searches to find and promote obscure and unsubstantiated propaganda, you can do real research on racism... if you escape your confirmation bias bubble. I won't be helping racists reading hone their arguments. But I'll give you a start on research: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining

 

You aren't confronting anything and you've been avoiding discourse with me. And my GOD, why do liberals always keep reusing the same slurs? "Spew" and "hate." Can't you all come up with anything else?

Outbursts of moral outrage aren't an argument for anything. Labels don't prove I am that which you claim I am. Labels aren't an argument for anything. You have called me a racist for the single reason that I have challenged the "blame white people" ideological drum beat of the political left.

You have zero tolerance for being challenged and nothing more. Why do liberals on this forum keep pulling the "Stormfront" card every time they get angry about something?

 

I find the search function on this forum is rather difficult to work with. But yes, if you're going to blame an entire group of people for something, then you need to substantiate it. Otherwise, you really are just hatching unsubstantiated conspiracy theories and dishing racism. If you wouldn't think about blaming blacks as a group for something without qualifying it, then why is it OK to do this with whites? I have seen several users on this forum do it repeatedly. How is that NOT racist to do so, and why are people offended when I ask them to qualify these types of claims?

You're calling it that doesn't make it so. (I'm not even sure what supposedly obscure and unsubstantiated propaganda you're even talking about.) As a former member of the political left myself, my beliefs do not come from web searches. My belief system has been an outgrowth of my discovering and further analyzing the inconsistencies and hypocrisy of the political left which caused first my disillusionment and then ultimate abandonment of the left. One of the big reasons for that was my realization of frequent racist double standards. Anti-racist my ass.

 

It just tells me they have no argument. That's just another reason I quit the left. If they can't articulate their views like adults, something is wrong. Pulling out the label gun and firing off a salvo is pretty sad to watch.

 

It's not a matter of privilege it's a matter of behavior of life's choices. But if such "privilege" exist since when is the the duty of government to create a counter privilege to offset it?

 

Will you be actually -making- an argument then? Because you haven't so far despite all the verbiage you've injected into the thread.

 

Well there's a fine bit of hypocrisy coming from a poster who throws out liberal, leftist and marxists labels instantly at anyone who offers a differing opinion...

 

Coming from somebody who just called her a racist. That's rich.

 

I dont start labels I retaliate, I never label anyone a conservative, liberal, leftist, commie, maxist, libertarian but I will respond to anyone who does with an appropriate label that fits.... if racist fits that's what they get back...
And if I slip up and do, you can call me on it....

 

Your true colors are coming out. At least you admit that you have no problem with forced racial segregation. That's more than what other racists here will admit.