Really?? Ben Carson, M.D. (REP) says 'VA scandal is GIFT FROM GOD' (on FOX)!!!!!

Then you are not understanding my argument nor do you want to understand my argument when you make reckless claims toward a poster just for kicks.

 

Like you do when you imply people are "white nationalists" simply for disagreeing with you? Or am i supposed to just ignore your insults?

 

There is no fear. I simply disagree with him on certain issues such as his plan for an HSA with every person.

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Only after you called me a racist RP.

 

You are constantly saying Carson is a puppet or easily led leads people to view those comments as racist.. Dont want to be viewed as a racist? Dont go down the Uncle Tom route when describing a black man. Your posts have meaning.

 

Dr. Carson is alluding that government is bad, government health care is worse, and that this scandal should help the GOP win back the Presidency and the Senate.

 

Your posts suggest other 'problems' you have with him.

 

1]Tell me how many depts of govt actually do a good job.
2] Defend VA waiting lists i.e.; death panels.
3] And? So what if a scandal causes people to become disgusted with the dems? You don't think that many people are fed up with all of Obama's scandals and lying and may take it out on the dems who kiss his arse when these issues pop up? Think! If this was a GOP WH, you lefties would be screaming over these scandals.

 

Daily Caller???????????

Seriously???????

When you find a source that is not a right wing Mod edit,,flounder blog, get back to me.

 

It was an analogy RP. That analogy was using the same phrase "being a slave" that he used to government as he is to political pandering. But you did not want to debate the analogy or the fact that the reference was hyperbole at best and reckless at its worst. Instead, you want to take the low road and view this as racism, the very same pandering that Dr. Carson says should not happen and the viewpoint that you will be viewed as a white nationalist because you are now seeing racism in any debate or point of view that you disagree with.

The choice is yours RP. .

 

Really?

Which networks put every presidential candidate for the party it support on its payroll (except one)????

Hint, it wasn't MSNBC.

But, if you're dumb enough to think that paying politicians to campaign for themselves in prime time is journalism, than you deserve Fox Noise!

 

This is well past an analogy this is hardly the first thread you have called him subtely an Uncle Tom.. And you then you project it to me for defending a man for being able to have a viewpoint no matter his skin color and that makes me the racist? That is your angle? How can you honestly type such trash?

 

'We'? Who is 'we'? Take your own advice 'nationalist'.

 

the va is obviously the only one looking out for them, private insurance hasn't done better or they would of wen private...

the problem is the increased demand for care the VA is getting, not that the va failed, the ones that started two 10+ year wars did not ramp the va up to handled the increased demand for their services

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What do you base that on? If veterans only utilize the VA, how do you know private insurance would not be a better option? Do you have proof of waiting lists for private insurance?

The failures of the VA go back decades. There were more vets from Nam than the two wars the lying left likes to divert to when they see this issue. Obama made promises three times over the last 5 years that he would address the VA. He lied yet again.

 

How 'progressive'. A slew of overly punctuated rants and attacking the messenger. Yet not a single refutation of the message.

 

And thats why Ubama states hes mad...and sitting back doing nothing.

 

If you cite racism in another person's post are arguemnt, then that is all you will want to see. YOu have taken the low road and stopped dfebating the issue and began to debate the person. So again, the choice is yours. Debate the topic or stay in the gutter.

 

1. DoD, federal, state and local law enforcemnt agencies, Federal Reserve, Treasury, Commerce, and a few others. But defining good or bad in not indcative of poltiical polcy, it is their ability to meet their obligations given their funding levels.

2. The waiting lists have been there for more than 6 decades. This isn't anything new. Dependign on which war you fought and your level of service connected disability depended on how long you waited. Thsi is an example of economic constraints in which the agency has always been underfunded.

3. The scandal isn't about Dem Vs GOP. It goes much deeper than that. and it is not as superficialal and shallow as you want it to be.

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legal and medical community.

 

That doesn't change the fact that this is a made up right wing talking point.

The only links you can produce for this claim are right wing trash blogs, who all bleated it on cue.

The trouble is that the rest of the media was making fun of the GOP convention, because of its Potemkin Village aspects of showing parades of minorities on the sage, in front of a blue haired, lilly white audience.

Everyone saw what a joke it was.

None of the people who the GOP showcased during that Convention have emerged seriously on the national stage since then either.

 

DoD yes. Local law and state law enforcement is not federal. And that is questionable in some cases also. So you named one dept out of hundreds.

The VA has been promised by Obama that their issues would be resolved no less than three times in the last 5 years. He lied and people died.

This POS POTUS has five scandals he has ignored while his Stepford Wives minions give him cover. Spae me the tap dance.

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Prove it is made up.

More ad hominum. How 'liberal'.

 

Yes, beyond the next quarter indeed, Americans are getting screwed and are too stupid to realize it:

When the two risk adjustment measures do run out, Parente projects that health insurance premiums will rise drastically and will most significantly affect the lower-cost, less-inclusive Obamacare plans — most often purchased by those who can’t afford the expensive premiums of the best Obamacare plans.

Bronze health care plans, which are less inclusive but boast the lowest average premiums, will rise between $2,132 and $4,174 between 2016 and 2017, according to Parente’s estimates. By 2024, premiums bronze plans will more than double in some cases.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/27/t...tely-boost-number-of-uninsured/#ixzz3318qlMyB

 

The resaon there are not waiting lists for healthcare for private insurance is that there are far more options for care. I have no problem with Veterans transitioning to using private health care.

You are correct, Problems have existed for caring for Vets. From way back to the 70's as I remember. Politicians of every kind have promissed to do a better job.

 

You haven't a clue. You sit back and listen to the liberal politicians who have convinced you that more money will solve all problems but federal money has destroyed our local schools, our roads, our bridges and more money in the VA will do nothing but increase the number of bureaucrats stumbling around in the clinics..

Here in Austin, Texas our local congresscritter is very proud that he arranged to have the largest free standing VA clinic in the country built. At the old clinic we barely had enough parking but the closest parking spots were right next to the building. Now the closest parking spot is one hundred yards from the building so they had to hire a couple of drivers to help the cripples vets get from the cars to the building. At the old clinic you went in the front door and you could go out at two our doors depending where you were parked but at the new building there are doors at other locations but there is a fence around the building so you can't get to the parking lot so you have to go back in and go out the front door. There are vehicle barriers all over the place and now vets aren't allowed to have a hand gun in their vehicle in the parking lot. Across the hall from the lab where every person that goes in there has to give a urine sample there is a restroom with one stall and one urinal. The next closest restroom is further than a lot of the crippled vets want to walk. They put in a very expensive sign in system but it takes so much time to use that the lab went back to old system of taking a number.

What the VA needs is accountability. We still don't know what in the hell is going on and who is responsible for the mess.

What we do know is that private sector doctors see an average of eight times as many patients as VA doctors do. Even four times as many would be bad. Right now the VA staff that I deal with are; one woman from India, smart, nice but in no hurry to get me taken care of. Then there is the north African muslim nurse and another doctor from one of the islamo countries. There are two American nurses that I see from time to time. One of them is the drug abuse nurse that takes care of the drug use compliance contracts that you have to sign if you have ever used illegal drugs or not. If they detect marijuana, and they test you every six months, they won't give you any kind of pain killers. So the staff and the lab is spending money to prevent a problem that doesn't exist.

A few years ago I had an MRI, and they take months to get, from my neck to my tail bone but not long ago when I asked my doctor about it she said that there was no record of any MRI at all and that was the second one I had had. I asked the doctors and the nurses if I needed a colonoscopy at my age so they said that I did but they never offered to do one so I paid to have one done which is better because the idea of a VA doctor doing it didn't sound that good.

Liberal politicians don't care if the government program works as long as they get to write big checks for it and hire a lot of people who can't make it in the private sector.

 

if they were put on a super long wait and they could go somewhere else, don't you think they would of?

Obama addressed it, and sadly some of the employees lied to get their bonuses, the employees should of said they could not meet the goals because they needed more resources...

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Not if they couldn't afford to.

Obama did squat. He ran his mouth and ignored it for 23 days. Then he emerges to feign anger and rage and fires no one yet again.