You guys need to watch this interview/documentary with an 11 yr old transgender

The standards are being upheld. It's just the fringe crap that never really had any moral code applied to it. Needs that too be done.

What is moral to do with these folks? Execute them? Imprison them? Brain wash them? That would be a serious violation of our moral code.

Further more, who is being hurt? How does it harm society to allow these people to live how they want?

Nothing is declining here. We are making a larger more intricate moral code. It's doing the opposite.

What is immoral about this? I am not really interested in your opinion. Show me the facts that this is immoral. I know you don't like this, but that has no bearing on a moral code. I don't like paying taxes, but I do.

 

No. Have mental health professionals figure out what is cross-wired in his brain and correct the problem. Don't simply make it worse by making him feel that this is natural and just the way it is.

 

What common sense? The feelings you have?

Explain this common sense. Explain how you would instill it into them. Explain how this would effect the child.

Explain why its a bad situation.

I am sorry I just don't understand what you're talking about.

 

Dr Mengele at your service.

Just a simple rewiring is it? I'll get my tools..

 

You don't really understand this particular part of medicine. We don't know how to correct anything mental health is all about coping. We use drugs, counseling and support to help people cope with their mental problems. If you have anxiety disorder, you're not going to be corrected you're going to be taught how to cope that means live as normally as you can with your disorder. My spouse has PTSD he will never not have that it will always be part of him. We cope with it.

mental health professionals don't correct things they help people cope with them.

I'm sorry I hope that wasn't condescending I didn't mean it to be but I used to be in the mental health profession. and it doesn't work like medicine used to treat the body

 

I work in that field. I probably have a better grasp of the issues than you.

 

Our society is doomed if we keep normalizing abnormal behaviors or continue to define deviancy down to the lowest common denominator.

 

I have a masters degree and behavioral sciences. I worked in the field is a counselor. with the posts you made I don't think you have a grasp at all.

telling the person who suffers from a mental disorder that they need to stop it, and that they aren't right only makes the problem worse.

if you were in the profession you wouldn't have said something as foolish as "correct the problem".

What exactly do you do in the field?

 

Scarecrow I'm thinking.

 

And how exactly have you reached the conclusion that something in his brain is cross-wired?

 

Because he thinks he's a girl.

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I invented the mental health profession

 

Incorrect.

History tells us that you have it completely backward. Normal and abnormal are subjective, sdo much so that they have no real meaning unto themselves. At one time it was abnormal for women to wear pants, at one time it was abnormal for Jews and Christians to comingle, at one time it was abnormal for black people to live in predominantly white neighborhoods. All of these things have been "normalized" and our society became greater because of it.

Deviance (which means to deviate form the cultural normative in this context) should not really be a concern unless it causes some harm.

Now, I know this sticks in your craw, but that is your deviance. Explain why we should value your deviance over others?

I'm not aware that anybody getting killed over transgender, I'm not aware of anybody being raped, children being harmed, diseases being spread, vigilantism, or frankly any detriment to our society.

you think it's going to spell doom I ask you to explain.

 

So what?

This must mean you were lying. Thanks for confirmation.

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perhaps he receives treatment.

 

So, you honestly believe that it's normal for a person born a male to believe he's actually a female?

 

I don't think anybody is normal. That isn't really a term by which people are measured.

I also explained that in the rest of the pissy you deleted.

Another question, why can't you answer this

 

So you figure everyone who exhibits a persistent belief in an obvious lie needs brain surgery. I've got that about right, haven't I?

 

That's another problem we have in our society today. There are people out there who actually can't tell normal from abnormal.

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For some reason, I'm always amused when people precede their comments on the internet with words like that

 

No. Who said anything about brain surgery?

I do believe that anyone who's born a boy, but believes he's actually a girl has serious mental health issues.

 

Delusional people need treatment. How much more obvious can that be?

 

A "normal" little boy doesn't believe that he's actually a little girl. And it is neither helpful or productive to excuse, support, or accept such a thing as normal.

 

At no time was any of that considered abnormal. Uncommon maybe? Abnormal? No.

 

Normal and abnormal are subjective and dependant. Normal refers to how similar you are too those around you. It's dependant upon your surroundings.

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Some people are easily amused.

 

Considered by who?

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Of course not. But what ifs wrong with being abnormal? What is so great about normal?

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Well treatment for transgender people is to let them live as who they are. If not what is it? Lobotomy? Death? What do you do?

 

And you think everyone with such issues has something corss-wired upstairs?

The only way that can be obvious is if there are people who have demonstrated the ability to cure such a condition. Otherwise I'd say he needs "treatment" about as much as he needs a bra.

 

Certainly accommodating one's delusions doesn't "cure" them of anything. A man thinking he's a woman should be put in the same category as a man thinking he's a space alien, or thinking he's God. Delusions require treatment. How successful the treatment is varies from one individual to the next.