Gun Owners do not respect human life.

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Cdnpoli, May 30, 2014.

  1. wyly

    wyly Well-Known Member

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    i have greater chance of being hit by lightning and crushed by a tornado than being killed my own home by a stranger...22 homicides last year in a city of 1.1 million, none were children, without going deep into the history of each case I can tell you most of killers were known by the victim, a good number would be domestic disputes and gang related...strangers breaking into someones home while theyre asleep and killing them is extremely, extremely rare...and all this while very very few of us have hand guns, and no one keeps a gun under their pillow....your the victim of media induced paranoia...
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    ya know something, the issue of alcohol is NEVER discussed when talking about firearms. Most domestic disputes that result in guns being involved usually include alcohol

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    I can't help but notice when YOU talk about guns, you are merely projecting yourself on others.
     
  4. wyly

    wyly Well-Known Member

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    probably every cops worst day, domestic disputes, highly volatile emotional situations and yes often alcohol is involved...

    Our gun control laws work, they allow legal ownership for responsible owners while keeping handguns , rifles and shotguns out of the hands of those who shouldnt have them...background checks sort out those with criminal records, mental health/violence issues, addiction problems, domestic violence records, its not perfect but it works...
     
  5. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    You have no idea who and what I am and I barely even get a chance to watch the news.

    AboveAlpha
     
  6. wyly

    wyly Well-Known Member

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    well, your perception that you're going to be murdered didnt develop in a vaccum....you didnt come up with all those horror scenarios out of thin air...how would come up with those scenarios if not the media?
     
  7. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    Because I have SEEN THEM...up close and personal.

    Unfortunately.

    And although I have seen and been apart of such things 2 times it had absolutely NOTHING to do with my JOB.

    AboveAlpha
     
  8. Herkdriver

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    Although I don't like the concept of reducing an argument purely to statistics, to numbers...here's some numbers.

    In 2010
    Firearm suicides. Number of deaths: 19,392
    Firearm homicides. Number of deaths: 11,078

    Suicides account for 64% of all deaths involving firearms.

    You have a higher chance of taking your own life with a firearm than someone else taking your life with a firearm.

    It's rarely discussed however, I suppose because the issue of suicide is considered "taboo."
     
  9. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    I am glad you brought this up as if there is there is one extremely good reason to own a firearm it is so that a person who has a painful beyond words disease with absolutely zero possibility of recovery and his state does not allow Dr. assisted suicide....having a firearm to end one's life so that a person doesn't have to needlessly suffer is
    reason enough to own one.

    AboveAlpha
     
  10. Herkdriver

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    A gun, just makes it that much easier to use as an impulsive act. Nobody wants to die...nobody. It's just the pain of continuing in life has outweighed the desire to remain alive. A permanent fix to a temporary situation. If one is prone to depression or feelings of suicide I would advocate the removal of any firearm in that household.
     
  11. Defender of Freedom

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    Um last i checked, most gun owners promote gun safety. Just saying. Your post is ridiculous
     
  12. Defender of Freedom

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    I would rather have a firearm and not need it, then need it and do not have it.
     
  13. Cdnpoli

    Cdnpoli Banned

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    Lulz. I bet most gun owners don't lock their guns up and have them loaded.
     
  14. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Why can't they go jump off a building, like everyone else :roll:

    Suicide isn't done for "practical" reasons. Suicide is rage, directed inwards, and just about all of the recent massacres have been, in fact, suicides. Most people would rather wait for death than embrace it, as they don't realize that conservatives in the United States WANT people who are sick to die.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry, but Bull (*)(*)(*)(*). Most gunnies in the US don't even think about gun safety anymore as the NRA has made it so that we now blame the victim of any accident for being in the way.
     
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    and I bet you don't lock the keys to your car up.
    Secured every knife in your house?
    Filled you pool with concrete?
    Tossed your cell phone because you might be driving and texting?
    Get rid of all your chemicals in your house?
    Never, ever, jaywalked? Lock your feet up.
    Pick a fight? lock your mouth up...............jes sayig.
    And why should I have a gun for personal protection, in my house and NOT have it loaded?
    Your fears betray you, young Skywalker............:roflol:
     
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One of the most ignorant statements I have heard. Gun owners are some of the most law-abiding, law-respecting people in this country. They respect life, and is why they support self-defense of themselves and others.
     
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    Page 2 of the Liberal Guide to Eradicating Rights, paragraph 3............because if what they say is true, half of America would be waaaaaaaaaaaay dead by now.
    wait for it....................
     
  19. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    If you just want my property, you will break into my house when I'm not home. I don't care about the property. If someone breaks into my home and I'm in it, the only logical conclusion is that they want to harm me or my family--which is the only reason I would shoot someone. If they just want property, they will break in while I'm gone.
     
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    "Gun owners are more likely to shoot you for going on their property. "

    well, only cause those that do not own a gun can't shoot you for going on their property, so I would say your 100% correct - lol

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    exactly, it's like being a black belt, when your hands and feet are deemed as weapons, you have to respond differently then if you were unarmed
     
  21. Shooterman

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    Statistical evidence, please, unless pulled from your nether regions. ( I highly suspect that to be the case )
     
  22. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Nobody in their right mind breaks into an occupied house unless they intend harm. Yes, mentally ill and drug addled people do break into occupied houses, but the people that are just breaking into your house for stuff are not going to do it at night when you are there. I can't use your "hole myself up in my bedroom" logic, at this time. Why? Well we have a split bedroom plan, and the master bedroom is the opposite side of the house from the other bedrooms. I'm not going to hole myself up in my bedroom, leaving my sons as potential victims....... Now, were I a single man, or somebody without kids, I would do that. I'm not. I have much more responsibility, and thus can't just abandon them.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Unless you are in danger, you aren't allowed to shoot anybody. There is no legal difference between shooting someone in the leg, or shooting to kill. Or in other words, if you have legal justification to shoot to wound, you have legal justification to shoot to kill. If you don't have legal justification to shoot to kill, you shouldn't be shooting to "injure."

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    Of course a 9mm can incapacitate. They do so all the time.

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    I don't know of a jury (in any place that I have lived) that would convict her.......
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Besides my sister-in-law, I don't know of any members of my family that don't own at least one gun. She is getting married to someone with guns, and was married to someone with guns. Life in the Southeast is different than in other parts of the country.
     
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    I have a fire extinguisher in my kitchen. Does that mean I live in fear?
     

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